Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16

Thanks, Kris, for getting at the real issue that I missed.
I must indeed agree with you. I, for one, am glad that there are dozens
of sopas at the store, and several airlines to fly across the Atlantic.
I understand it's harder to support choice in distributions and
desktops, but I believe it's essential so to do, if for no other reason
than it makes us think harder to get the important things right. It's not important that we all use the same 
email client, for instance, but it is
important that we can read email from anyone. I believe the latter is at
risk when we allow ourselves the ease of the former.


Kris Van Hees writes:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 08:01:00PM +0100, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote:
Janina Sajka wrote:
Mike Pedersen writes:
We have been informed, however, that there can be only one screen
reader/magnifier in the GNOME desktop.
That's a rather outrageous attitude. Who made that decision?

Are they also prepared to have only one web browser? ONly one media
player? ONly one word processor? Only one email client application?
I think you may have misinterpreted this slightly. The idea is that 
there will only be one official screen reader in Gnome, as there indeed 
is only one email client (Evolution), one browser (Epiphany), one office 
suite (gnome office, using abiword and gnumeric). Distributions can, and 
do, change these defaults and users can install a whole range of options.

Not to start a holy war, but a reasonable part of the audience that believes in
an alternative to Microsoft Windows also supports the notion of *not* including
various other applications and suites.  While Gnome is surely not an OS, it
seems rather weird (and potentially dangerous) to me to end up with a situation
where Gnome has an official screen reader, an official mail client, etc...
By including specific official applications and suites in Gnome, you're bound
to get into a situation where a large group of people will end up simply
sticking to the officially included applications and suites, either by choice
(easier) or as mandated by an IT department that takes the "we only run the
officially included stuff" approach (all too comon).

And in the end... why not simply leave Gnome to be the desktop environment it
is, and let users choose what they want?  Why does there need to be one
official choice, and optional alternatives?  I can see where the general public
falls for this, and how from a "let's pretend the user is stupid" perspective
this can be considered "user-friendly", but I would hope that we (as a special
interest group) can express a genuine concern about this type of policy to
the powers that be (and that make this type of policy).

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