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Re: Orca Incoming messages in Gaim not being read/displayed

Hi Al.  Thanks so much for your suggestions.  I'm starting to think we can
scratch off sound issues as well. <smile> I think what caused me to lean in
that direction was the myriad ("myriad" being an understatement) of posts in
the Ubuntu forums regarding how sound doesn't work at all, or work right, or
allow you to play multiple sounds, etc., etc.  Oh well, I got a new sound
card out of it. <grin>  

Other (potential) evidence that it might not be a sound issue:  I have a
braille display on one of my machines and all it shows is the edit box in
which you type a message.  This is also true with the braille monitor window
on the other machine.  But then I am way too new to Orca to know how a sound
issue might or might not affect what gets displayed in braille....

Creating a new user account and running with all default settings didn't
help either, I'm afraid.  And, yes, other apps like the terminal are reading
automatically.  

I also checked with Insert F3 to be sure I was running the Gaim scripts.  I
am....

Just curious:  Is anyone running Gaim with Orca successfully with Ubuntu?  

Thanks again!
Joanie



-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]
On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:47 AM
To: Orca screen reader developers
Subject: Re: Orca Incoming messages in Gaim not being read/displayed

Hi,

Now that you've replaced your sound card, it would seem that for the
most part, we could scratch off the possibility of a  sound issue,
except perhaps for ESD?  If you look under preferences/sound in the
gnome applications menu, is ESD enabled?  If not, enabling it should
allow for better handling of sounds.  Please note however, that on some
machines, I have seen a situation where enabling ESD actually causes
sound to go away completely, until the option is again disabled.  So,
unless you have Braille, or some other recourse, you might want to
approach this option with caution.


I assume other applications, such as gnome-terminal are reading
automatically, right?

If you haven't tried this yet, one thought might be to attempt running
Orca as well as GAIM from a different user account.  Doing this should
cause GAIM  to utilize its default settings, ruling out any changes you
may have inadvertently made to the UI in GAIM preferences.

Best of luck,

--Al




----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie diggs carroll org>
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Orca Incoming messages in Gaim not being read/displayed



Well, my guess was wrong. <grin>  I just installed a Sound Blaster
Audigy 4, disabled the onboard sound via the bios, and I still don't

get

speech for incoming messages in Gaim.

So what are others' guesses?  Is this some sound card driver issue

that

I might be able to solve by reading how-tos, or is this more likely

an

Orca issue that is out of my control?

Thanks again and take care.
Joanie


On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 16:02 -0700, Cody wrote:

  the 2 machines were a desktop EMachine with onboard sound which

did not

work, and an Averatec laptop with onboard sound which did work.

hmmmmm go

figure. Your guess is as good as mine.

Code
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie diggs carroll org>
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Orca Incoming messages in Gaim not being read/displayed



Hi Cody.  Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between

the

machine where it works and where it doesn't?

I can actually reproduce this problem on two machines -- one

desktop

with a cheap mobo and onboard sound and one laptop (i.e. onboard
sound).
I'm wondering if having a decent, dedicated sound card will make a
difference.  I'm not yet ready to install linux on my third PC

(which

has such a card), but I may run out and get a sound card for the

other

desktop....

On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 15:48 -0700, Cody wrote:

  hi Joany

  This was me who brought this up. I was running fc5. Orca did

not

read
messages on one machine but did on another so go figure. but I

did

notice
though what Mike said, sounds will mess with orca's speech output

so

turning
them off will most likely work. I did have a few occasions that

orca

totally
took over the gaim sounds and read incoming messages, but this

was

only
if I
was lucky...so, do that and see if that works.

Cody
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pedersen" <Michael Pedersen Sun COM>
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Orca Incoming messages in Gaim not being

read/displayed




Hello Joanie,

Incoming messages in Gaim are not being read/displayed by Orca

on

my
computer.  In looking at the list archives I see that this was
brought
up in May.  But I don't see any resolution, nor do I see it
mentioned
in
Bugzilla.  Is this a known issue?

I'm running Orca 0.2.5 and Gaim 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 6.06/Dapper

Drake.




Does this happen with all      messages or just the first one

in a

chat
session?  I have seen where once in a great while I won't hear

the

first
message in a chat session.  You might also want to turn off the
sound
effects in Gaim.  I've seen on some machines where the sounds

will

interrupt the speech for the new message.
Mike
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