Re: Orca A hotkey for starting / (was, Re: menu placement and setup GUI in Ubuntu)

["Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz gmail com>]

Hi Henrik,

My thought is that the dynamic loading of at-spi shouldn't necessarily be 
viewed as a prerequisite here.  Granted, the need to enable accessibility, 
logout and then log back in is an inconvenience; However, we're going to 
face that issue no matter how we start Orca.  In fact, the addition of a 
hotkey would help to minimize that inconvenience for now.  For example, 
consider if a user were starting  orca for the first time via the run 
dialog. in that case, they would twice need to type alt-f2, followed by orca 
and enter.  Once to let Orca enable accessibility, and again after logging 
out and back in.  With the implementation of a hotkey, the process of 
launching Orca twice could be reduced from around 12 keystrokes to 2.  This 
example doesn't even account for additional keystrokes caused by typos, or 
uncertainties due to not knowing one's location on the desktop, etc.

--Al




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henrik Nilsen Omma" <henrik ubuntu com>
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Orca A hotkey for starting / (was, Re: menu placement and setup 
GUI in Ubuntu)


> Al Puzzuoli wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Just wanted to respond to the portion of this message concerning the 
> > process
> > of starting Orca.  No specific mention was made of this , but I believe 
> > it
> > would be  very helpful if in addition to the other options discussed, the
> > desktop were to include a default hotkey for launching the program.  The
> > problem with all the other options is that to some extent, all of them
> > require navigating in the dark so to speak, and involve an element of
> > uncertainty.
> > I've used similar hotkeys in Windows and Mac OS, and in my experience, 
> > the
> > ability to walk up to any machine, knowing that there will be a quick and
> > dirty way to start the screen reader has been invaluable.
> I think that's a very good idea. However it has one important
> prerequisite: that AT-SPI can be loaded dynamically. I think that is
> something we should work towards anyway. What are the technical hurdles
> for this again?
>
> On OSX when you activate screen reading from the standard user settings
> area, it just starts speaking, without the need to activate a framework
> first or log out. Whether they have the required libraries running all
> the time or load them dynamically I don't know, but it 'just works'.
>
> I don't think we can have AT-SPI loaded by default on all machines ATM
> because it will get in the way for too many people. It uses resources
> and has stability issues (within itself, but mostly in the host
> applications I guess).
>
> - Henrik
>
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