Re: Orca 0.2.3

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

I have no quarrel with meeting the expectations of users who might
migrate to Linux from some other OS, as long as that doesn't require us
dumbing our environment down. But, I have every quarrel with allowing
their expectations to define what is, and is not meaningful and possible
on our environment. I think we have a golden opportunity to raise the
bar for accessibility over the next year or two, and I'm pushing for
that. I want to see us deliver more accessibility than has been seen
before by users of any OS.

Seems to me the browser based configuration tool which Tomas Cerha
mentioned makes the most sense. Works across allenvironments--even
remotely, if someone can log in.

PS: Don't forget who the first users are, and who will be providing all
that tech support to all those hordes of converts your email
contemplates. If existing Linux users are not well served, how are new,
inexperienced users going to be well served?

We need to expand our horizons,not limit them to the confines of old,
outworn prejudices.

Thomas Ward writes:
> Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> I believe those two environments rely on "gui
> configuration tools," so I am not surprised people would talk about
> wanting "gui configuration tools." But, it's the wrong approach.
>
> Hello. I wouldn't go as far to say it is the wrong approach, but I do 
> believe it should not be the only means of configuration. There will be 
> those Windows converts who's major gripe with Linux and other gnu 
> operating systems is there is not enough gui configuration. There are 
> the console die-hards that absolutely want the power of the console. The 
> only medium between the two extremes is to provide both methods of 
> configuration.
> We must remember a console die-hard can't convert a gui die-hard to a 
> console die-hard and the other way around. So providing both I feel is 
> the best solution here.
> One last point Janina's point of view generally stems from the 
> contention if the gui isn't properly configured for access then the 
> console must be used. This is true. However, if the gui is working with 
> accessibility then there is nothing saying the gui screen reader like 
> Orca can't be used to do configurations in a gui environment, and gui 
> tools can be used.

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