On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 11:43 -0300, José Queiroz wrote: > Sorry for the naive answer, but, if you're not using wireless, why do > you have a wireless adapter in your system? It's a laptop (high end developer laptop) with built in bluetooth and 802.11 a/b/g/n wifi. Why do I have it? I am using it. Sometimes when I don't have hard wired. It's build-in so removing it is non-trivial and sort of senseless if you think about it. > Is this some kind of mobile device, like a noteboot/netbook? Doesn't > it have some kind of "rfkill" button??? It does but it only controls the bluetooth for some reason. My previous laptop, it controlled both but not this one for some reason. It's my understanding that the switch is a soft switch, in any case, which does not physically or electrically disable the device itself and depends on the OS and drivers to do the right thing. So it may be a driver issue at that. But should it be in the kernel drivers or handled by NM? I don't see the Wifi antenna symbol light up until NM is active. Regardless, it should be possible to configure NM to do what I want, not arbitrarily always what it thinks it should in spite of what I've set it to. That's been my perpetual complaint about NM. I concur with the idea that things should just work out of the box, but then it should obey what I want it to do, if I don't want it to do what it's doing. It's a vast improvement over the bad old days where almost nothing was properly configurable and I'm glad to see that this, at least, has been already addressed in a newer release and that I'm not the only one with this annoyance. That's progress. Mike > 2010/3/15 Michael H. Warfield <mhw wittsend com> > Hey all, > > Pop question. This is one of my burning annoyances with > NetworkManager > and maybe there's an easy way to do this and I just can't find > it. > But... How do I disable wireless networking by default. I > can disable > it but, the next time I log in, it's enabled again. I want it > stone > cold dead unless I overtly and explicitly choose to enabled it > and then > I want it off if I log out and log back in again. > > The problem is that I work in an environment that is very rich > in IPv6 > support, at home and at work and on the road and at my > colocation > facility. I have v6 everywhere. The problem is that NM > brings up wlan0 > long after eth0 has been up and then the wlan0 interface gets > hit with a > new RA (router advertisement) which then causes all the v6 > traffic to be > routed out through the wireless WHICH I DO NOT WANT even > though the v4 > default route is out eth0. Because wlan0 gets the RA later > than the > eth0 address in response to its RD (router discovery) request, > it has a > later expiration time on the routes so it gets preference over > the eth0 > interface. This is by design. It's the way v6 is suppose to > work and > is how you renumber autoconfed v6 networks. But is screws me > over > royally when I'm in a situation where I've got a hard wired > network > connection and the wireless is less than stable and keeps > screwing up > all my v6 connections. Disabling it after logging in is > useless because > it has already brought it up and loaded the v6 routes with a > new default > and that then just breaks things. > > I want wireless off and to STAY OFF unless I want it on and > know that I > want it on. But I can't find a sticky setting that basically > tells it > to play dead and STAY DEAD. (The wireless "switch" on my > laptop only > switches the bluetooth, unfortunately). > > Mike > -- > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 | > mhw WittsEnd com > /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (678) 463-0932 | > http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ > NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in > the best of all > PGP Key: 0x674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is > sure of it! > > _______________________________________________ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > > _______________________________________________ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list -- Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 | mhw WittsEnd com /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0x674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it!
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