Re: *MAJOR* NetworkManager serial/usb modem configuration problem in fedora 12

[Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>]

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:49 -0600, dbrenner wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 14:53 -0500, rick james wrote:
> > On 1/23/10, John Mahoney <jmahoney waav com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:53 AM, rick james <rj1961r9 gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>  How do you configure v.92 serial/usb external dialup modems in Fedora
> > >> 12? All I see from NetworkManager are options for configuring wireless
> > >> modems and other hardware, which quite frankly is totally useless to
> > >> me but shows nothing dealing with usb/serial modems, but as can be
> > >> clearly  be seen below Fedora 12 itself sees the usb-to-serial port
> > >> cable I'm using with my laptop, while with various Fedora 12  live
> > >> cd's NetworkManager seem for some completely unknown reason and
> > >> idiotic reason seem totally ignore the serial ports on my main
> > >> machine.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > I do not remember network manager ever having support for 56k style dialup
> > > modems.  It probably sees the usbserial port and try's to detect a cellular
> > > data card which uses the same driver, but is unsuccessful and therefore
> > > closes the port.  I guess that is less idiotic then trying to create a
> > > cellular connection over a noncellular modem.
> > >
> > > --
> > > John
> > >
> > 
> > Then why the hell was system-config-network removed from Fedora 12? It
> > was never in *ANY* of the Live CD's beta testing Fedora 12, and when
> > people asked about it, they were given what can now be said was
> > outright double-talk about how the usb/serial support for external
> > modems that was a part of system-config-network was to be included in
> > NetworkManager.
> > 
> > 
> > Hell, if you read the WWW site for NetworkManager you'll get the
> > impression that it supports *ALL* networking devices just as
> > system-config-network did.
> > 
> > If NetworkManager had *NO* intentions of of supporting noncellular
> > modems then why was system-config-network even removed from Fedora 12
> > to begin with?
> > 
> > Someone was clearly *NOT* thinking here.
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> 
> There is a system-config-network for Fedora 12.
> system-config-network-1.5.99-1.fc12
> system-config-network-tui-1.5.99-1.fc12
> 
> I use them.

It was probably removed from the LiveCD but of course available in the
repositories, on the multi-CD install set, and on the DVD.  The LiveCD
is *not* for everyone, and given that it's space constrained some stuff
has to get dropped.  The LiveCD is not intended for people with servers
for example, since many server-type packages aren't included, but are
available from the repos.  I believe s-c-n was dropped from the LiveCD
given that NM covers the networking requirements of a majority of users
(note I didn't say all users).

Dan