Re: debug tips

[Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:40 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 08:21 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:55 +0100, Marc Herbert wrote:
> > > Aaron Konstam a écrit :
> > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 08:53 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> As I've said, but let me repeat it again, I do boot into run level 3.
> > > >> After logging in I start X manually via startx.
> > > 
> > > >>> We are having a giant miscommunication going on . What rl are you actually running at?
> > > 
> > > >> No, there is no miscommunication, simply you just have to believe that
> > > >> it is possible to boot in runlevel 3 and then it is possible to start
> > > >> X manually via startx :)
> > > 
> > > > I believe it, if you will accept that running startx puts you in to rl5
> > > > not rl3.
> > > 
> > > Huh? startx is changing the runlevel? That is some news.
> > This is a semantic argument. rl3 does not support X, rl5 does. I have
> > never actually checked this but I would be amazed if when one runs
> > startx the system does not switch to rl5.
> > 
> > But I guess I will have to try it or depend on the testimony of someone
> > who runs startx. I have been amazed before.
> Well it is always good to be amazed at least once a day. I tried it.
> startx does not cause rl5 to be reported by runlevel. Howver, at least
> on my machine NM does not run the way it should.

Does startx spawn the applet?  I'm pretty sure it should, since I think
startx just starts up the normal r5 session but of course doesn't switch
to r5.  It also depends on what levels you've got NM set to start at:

chkconfig --list | grep NetworkManager

should tell you that.

Dan