Re: trash/delete prompt

[sjohnsonaz aol com]

While I understand that a prompt on something like "play" is unnecessary, "play" doesn't change anything related to data.  For any "read" feature, there is absolutely no reason for a prompt.  But in the case of a writing feature, especially one where a user may lose their data, a prompt is ABSOLUTELY necessary.  Now, that being said, I realize that in the case of nautilus, it only moves the file to the trash.  However, for the average user, this could cause terrible complications.  As a sysadmin, I've found workers misplacing files all the time due to accidental drag/drops and the like.  A drag/drop takes 3 distinct actions, click->drag->release, and requires the drag to both pick up a file, and put it into a folder.  In the case of clicking the delete button, it is far easier to just brush the key by accident.  It just makes sense to add a small layer of protection against this.

In the case of most other major operating systems, including those using KDE, Mac OS, and Windows (since 95 and possibly before) this prompt is standard.  All users of any other operating systems EXPECT this feature!  Also, CLEARLY the other designers found use for this prompt.  The resistance to include such a small feature is completely unfounded.  I can support providing an GUI option in the settings to activate/deactivate it, however leaving it out altogether is absolutely inappropriate.

There are many things which hold Linux/Unix back from popular acceptance, and if one does just a cursory search of forums, they will find complaints about this deficiency everywhere.  And in many cases, the forums advise that the user must either live with it, or switch to KDE.  If Gnome, and indeed Linux/Unix in general are to EVER be accepted by more than just enthusiasts and datacenters, these kinds of issues must be addressed.

I hope you can understand my concerns.  Your curt response to my previous message was ABSOLUTELY uncalled for.  Isn't one of the fundamental goals of open source software to provide a strong channel of communication between developers and end-users?  This kind of response does not speak well of your project.

Please keep me informed of your progress on this issue.

Sincerely,

Sean Johnson


-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net>
To: sjohnsonaz aol com
Cc: nautilus-list gnome org
Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 8:18 am
Subject: Re: trash/delete prompt

Am Samstag, den 07.03.2009, 19:10 -0500 schrieb sjohnsonaz aol com:
> I'm in the process of migrating to nautilus, however I've become
> concerned that there is no prompt before sending file to the trash.  I
> realize it prompts before deleting, but without a trash prompt as
> well, this may cause problems for unsuspecting users.

Well, if users move something into trash, what do they expect?

It might sound sarcastic but to me it's like pushing the "Play" button
of my music software and getting a popup
"This will start playing sound from your speakers. This might be loud.
Are you really sure you want to do this? [OK] [Cancel]"

> Is this option available, and if not, could it be added to the queue
> for the next release?

Please not yet another "Are you really really really sure?" dialog. 
Nothing will be permanently deleted when moving something to trash.
No need for a dialog at all.

Feel free to file an enhancement request in bugzilla.gnome.org (if there
isn't one already), but I'm certain that this is a WONTFIX.

andre

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