Re: [(RE)ANNOUNCING] nautilus-open-terminal

[John Keller <jkeller matchbox fr>]

Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
> Luis Villa wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:40:17 +0100, Heinrich Rebehn
> > <rebehn ant uni-bremen de> wrote:
> >
> > > Ionut Cotoi wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, February 23, 2005 11:22 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna said:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:04:54PM +0200, Ionut Cotoi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > To make everybody happy I think you should consider adding a key to
> > > > > > gconf from where the "poweruser" can add Open Terminal back to the
> > > > > > Desktop context menu (like for nautilus  browser/spatial mode).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > People are acting too emotionally here.  Again, nothing is being
> > > > > taken away as I understand it is this:
> > > > >
> > > > > * the part in nautilus that hardcodes the terminal in the context menu
> > > > > will be removed.
> > > > >
> > > > > * a new plugin for nautilus will put the terminal back on the context
> > > > > menu or whatever as long as the plugin exists.  It just won't be in
> > > > > nautilus proper.  Does this make sense?  So in a sense, it's become
> > > > > optional, but for most of us distro users it'll be a simple rpm
> > > > > or deb/emerge/whatever install.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So you're work flow will continue to be the same.  Does this make 
> > > > > sense?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fine with me ;)
> > > >
> > > > > sri
> > >
> > >
> > > Mee too, if the functionality really stays the same
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to flame, but if you'd actually read the original post, or
> > actually used the code, the functionality isn't the same. It is
> > *better*, since it intelligently opens in the current directory and
> > not just in ~ like the old one did.
> >
> > Please, refrain from posting if you don't have signal to add to the
> > discussion in the future- flaming Christian for doing the right thing
> > and doing it better just wasted a lot of people's time.
> ???? Whats's wrong now? I never flamed anybody. You seem to be 
> misunderstanding.

I think Luis is referring to this comment:

> NO! Please don't remove yet another valuable feature from GNOME! I use
> "Open Terminal" from the desktop quite often and would not want to
> miss it! I dont think the feature hurts anyone.

In reference to Christian's announcement of a new, working extension 
that would replace a the hard-coded menu item.

Ergo, new users are encouraged to use Nautilus. Advanced users can 
install an optional package. No fiddling with GConf keys, no "power 
user" mode. Things will "just work".

English may or may not be your first language, but it seems to me that 
all-caps exclamations and multiple exclamation points would be pretty 
strong in any language. That response to a simple announcement has now 
spun into a thread (by my count) of 14 messages (including this one ;-) ).

If it hadn't been you, it may have been someone else; I'm not trying to 
blame a single person. The attitude, though, frankly stinks.

This is a potentially positive move forward. Immediately taking the 
position of resistance - and this goes for everyone - *without* even 
trying the code, does nothing to help move GNOME development forward.

I'm not designated list policeman, but as a GNOME user and someone 
interested in its development I have a vested interest in encouraging 
changes like the one Christian proposed.

And anyone reading this far, could you please have a more open mind 
about proposed patches? If you want to express an opinion, that's great. 
But for the sake of all users, please try to express an informed opinion.

- John