Re: [(RE)ANNOUNCING] nautilus-open-terminal

[Heinrich Rebehn <rebehn ant uni-bremen de>]

John Keller wrote:
> Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
>
> > Luis Villa wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:40:17 +0100, Heinrich Rebehn
> > > <rebehn ant uni-bremen de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ionut Cotoi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, February 23, 2005 11:22 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna said:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:04:54PM +0200, Ionut Cotoi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To make everybody happy I think you should consider adding a key to
> > > > > > > gconf from where the "poweruser" can add Open Terminal back to the
> > > > > > > Desktop context menu (like for nautilus  browser/spatial mode).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People are acting too emotionally here.  Again, nothing is being
> > > > > > taken away as I understand it is this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * the part in nautilus that hardcodes the terminal in the context 
> > > > > > menu
> > > > > > will be removed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * a new plugin for nautilus will put the terminal back on the context
> > > > > > menu or whatever as long as the plugin exists.  It just won't be in
> > > > > > nautilus proper.  Does this make sense?  So in a sense, it's become
> > > > > > optional, but for most of us distro users it'll be a simple rpm
> > > > > > or deb/emerge/whatever install.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you're work flow will continue to be the same.  Does this make 
> > > > > > sense?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Fine with me ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > > sri
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mee too, if the functionality really stays the same
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hate to flame, but if you'd actually read the original post, or
> > > actually used the code, the functionality isn't the same. It is
> > > *better*, since it intelligently opens in the current directory and
> > > not just in ~ like the old one did.
> > >
> > > Please, refrain from posting if you don't have signal to add to the
> > > discussion in the future- flaming Christian for doing the right thing
> > > and doing it better just wasted a lot of people's time.
> > ???? Whats's wrong now? I never flamed anybody. You seem to be 
> > misunderstanding.
>
>
> I think Luis is referring to this comment:
>
>  > NO! Please don't remove yet another valuable feature from GNOME! I use
>  > "Open Terminal" from the desktop quite often and would not want to
>  > miss it! I dont think the feature hurts anyone.
>
> In reference to Christian's announcement of a new, working extension 
> that would replace a the hard-coded menu item.

I did not oppose Christian's new extension. I only opposed removing 
"Open Terminal" from the desktop popup.
As far as i understood his announcement, his extension is only available 
in open folders and not on the desktop. Did i get this wrong?

> Ergo, new users are encouraged to use Nautilus. Advanced users can 
> install an optional package. No fiddling with GConf keys, no "power 
> user" mode. Things will "just work".
>
> English may or may not be your first language, but it seems to me that 
> all-caps exclamations and multiple exclamation points would be pretty 
> strong in any language. That response to a simple announcement has now 
> spun into a thread (by my count) of 14 messages (including this one ;-) ).
>
> If it hadn't been you, it may have been someone else; I'm not trying to 
> blame a single person. 

> The attitude, though, frankly stinks.

English is indeed not my first language, but i view the above line as an 
insult.
> This is a potentially positive move forward. Immediately taking the 
> position of resistance - and this goes for everyone - *without* even 
> trying the code, does nothing to help move GNOME development forward.
>
> I'm not designated list policeman, but as a GNOME user and someone 
> interested in its development I have a vested interest in encouraging 
> changes like the one Christian proposed.
>
> And anyone reading this far, could you please have a more open mind 
> about proposed patches? If you want to express an opinion, that's great. 
> But for the sake of all users, please try to express an informed opinion.
>
> - John


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