Re: SV: [Nautilus-list] Desktop folder

[<bordoley msu edu>]

On the subject of keeping the home dir clean of non-hidden files, perhaps this
can be proposed a standard to freedesktop.org or perhaps to linux filesystem
standard.


dave

Tuomas Kuosmanen <tigert ximian com> said:

> On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 19:07, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
>     > I dunno. I need to ask Ettore. Personally I wish to do a
>     > s/evolution/.evolution/g as soon as possible, since there really is no
>     > reason I can think of why it is a non-hidden dir. It's not like a user
>     > should be going there to poke stuff with the filemanager..
>     
>     You might still want to do simple things like copying the directory over
>     to another machine.
> 
>     If you make it hidden and you also make the desktop the only way to
>     browse the home directory, then there is no way for an end user to back
>     up his Evolution data and move it around.
> 
> Yea. Although it requires the use of a shell, unless you have some
> graphical way of mounting the other machine and just dragging it there.
> In most cases I guess one would use scp or something to transfer the
> directory. In that case you need to write instructions anyway (or a
> script maybe, might be a good idea?). And if you have instructions, you
> can just as well add the dot there.
>     
>     It sure will be configurable at some point (1.2 most likely), but not in
>     1.0.x and not because of Nautilus.
> 
> :-) Yea. I guess people have requested the same for other reasons too.
> It "clutters your 'ls'" too :-)
> 
> By the way, speaking of the clutter of "ls" this is handy if you dont
> like to see the .desktop files on your shell:
> 
> 	alias ls="ls --ignore=\*"
> 
> Will not list .desktop files then. Of course "ls *.desktop" works if you
> want to see them. Rather handy I think.
>     
>     BTW, if you don't want users to access the contents of directories like
>     ~/evolution, we could add a metadata property that marks a directory as
>     "non browsable by default", and when you enter it Nautilus could display
>     some blurb about how the contents oou f the directory shouldn't be
>     manipulated, unless the user does something explicit (like e.g. changing
>     to the "Advanced" user level or clicking a "browse at my own risk"
>     button or something).
> 
> That might be a good idea yeah, also for other dirs. Although the way
> Windows does it for system directories is kind of pointless given the
> permission stuff we have on unix. But it could do that for .gnome/ too.
> 
> OSX has $HOME/Library/ that stores all user settings stuff and libs and
> such, keeping the homedir clean, since Mac apps dont traditionally
> create dotfiles, but rather have their own directories for stuff.
> 
>     Please, no. :-)
>     
>     The desktop directory should just be easily accessible from file
>     selectors.  KDE got it right by calling it ~/Desktop.
> 
> Maybe I am stupid but I really dont see good reasons why it wouldnt be a
> good idea. Using it for a year, and it still makes sense, mind you. And
> I use the desktop a _lot_. But I understand people who dont want files
> on the desktop as well. People like Iain and you clearly use the desktop
> for different purpose, thus it makes a lot of sense to keep it
> configurable. Whatever the default is should not matter for "power
> users" anyway since one can just configure it.
> 
> Tuomas
> 
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