Re: [Muine] Groups and the main UI

[Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>]

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 09:36, Việt Yên Nguyễn wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 09:23, Link Dupont wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:49, enntee wrote:
> > > > If this sounds at all interesting (or if I've completely failed to
> > > > visualize), I'd be happy to do a mockup of what I'm talking about. 
> > > 
> > > I got bored ;)
> > > 
> > > http://localgod.net/~enntee/muine/mockup.jpg
> > 
> > Hmm. I kinda like it. Neat idea. I might like to see this discussed and
> > expanded upon a bit.
> 
> I believe the mockup is quite good, but it does confuses a little. How
> do you create groups? And how do you want to fill them on a friendly
> way? This probably will require another window and thus increased mental
> states. 

I think it is fine like this actually.. selecting groups and editing
groups are different things. Selecting groups is an everyday task,
people maybe have one or two big group editing sessions. Bloating the
selection interface with editing features would be unnecssary, i think
..

> 
> I personally prefer to get rid of the "playlist" concept. As playlists
> and groups are actually the same: you want to play a certain set of
> songs which you are in the mood for. To make this happen the right way,
> we should devise a new and more logical term for this...

Well, there is a difference. Playlists are ordered, groups are not-
groups are really just collections. But groups could very easily be used
instead of playlists my most people, yes. But I think making groups
orderable does not make much sense.. So I think we should keep the
open/save playlist stuff. 


Jorn

> 
> Secondly, it should be implemented in such a way, that users who don't
> understand the notion of groups shouldn't be bothered with. A empty
> default group is a nice way to do it. These users will use the empty
> group as it is a playlist.
> 
> I believe that groups actually work the same way as bookmarks, they are
> an user-categorised system filled with items of interest of the user. As
> with default bookmarks groups (like Epiphany) I think having default
> music groups is a good idea. I think that by genre as Jorn proposed is a
> very friendly way to have.
> 
> Well, I have worked out a GUI (yet), I am too busy now on real life
> stuff to do that.
> 
> Việt Yên
> 
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