Re: Initial draft of GNOME Mobile annual report article

[Luc Pionchon <luc pionchon nokia com>]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 15:58 +0200, ext Luc Pionchon wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 13:06 +0100, ext Dave Neary wrote:
> > Hi,
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > 
> > Luc Pionchon wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 20:50 +0100, ext Dave Neary wrote:
> > > "Successes in mobile: Hildon moving upstream"
> > > 
> > > I cannot understand what this means. As far as I know, Hildon did not
> > > make any progress on the GNOME side since early 2008 (Feb~). I would
> > > remove the statement.
> > 
> > 
> > The bullet list at the top was simply an idea dump - that line came from
> > a slide in a Nokia presentation at LinuxTag, I believe. When you dig
> > into it, indeed, you see that Hildon got wider adoption through moblin
> > this year, and also we've seen GTK+ releases with a lot of Hildon work
> > included. As you say, we're lagging about a year behind the work done,
> > thoughh.
> > 
> > > About "performance fixes" at Nokia, you certainly want to credit Xan
> > > Lopez.
> > 
> > I would be interested in crediting by name all exceptional
> > contributions. Stormy pointed out that I did not mention anyone in
> > OpenedHand, moblin or Ubuntu by name, and I also didn't mention Xan. In
> > fact, I didn't know he worked for Nokia - when he commits to GTK+, he
> > uses xan gnome org 
> > 
> > Looking through the ChangeLog, I see surprisingly few comments
> > mentioning "performance" at all. Anyone know why?
> 
> In general, performance change-sets may be small and just a few, still
> with high performance impact. Also possibly not logged as such.
> 
> About GTK, performance improvements happened also in dependencies like
> Cairo, and possibly Pango. Imendians like Tim, Mitch and Kris did a good
> share of work, and possibly also others like Behdad and Carl Worth, I
> guess. It has been a tedious work involving many people. If I would keep
> a single name, I would mention the exceptional contribution of "M.
> collaboration".
> 
> The exceptional achievement is that, at the origin of GNOME Mobile there
> was a bunch of people blocked with GTK+2.6, because of the performance
> of GTK+2.8. At that time Nokia had a dirty fork of GTK+ 2.6, and merging
> in improvements from trunk was a significant effort.
> 
> Now, thanks to excellent collaboration, we at Nokia were able to ship
> N810 and Maemo 4 with GTK+ 2.10. One of the important side effects is
> that, we were catching up with the latest GTK+, decreasing our
> maintenance burden.


To link to a previous thread on the list,

this is a concrete example where collaboration gives a competitive
advantage. Nokia would have hardly manage with only internal resources.

Luc


> 
> This is a high level view, people who had their hands directly in can
> correct or give more details.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Dave.
> > 
> 
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