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Today's Topics:
1. No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection (Joerg Thuemmler)
2. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection (Yury V. Zaytsev)
3. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection (Yury V. Zaytsev)
4. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection (Felix Miata)
5. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection (Joerg Thuemmler)
6. Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection (Yury V. Zaytsev)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:19:09 +0100
From: Joerg Thuemmler <listen vordruckleitverlag de>
To: mc gnome org
Subject: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection
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Hi,
I'm new here and as many others do, I will start with a question ;-)
Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer version
of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o works, but
immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc -U. If I'm
root, subshell works, setting /usr/bin/mc setuid works too, but is not
wanted...
Is there a user group I have to be in or some other user rights
limitation I have to change?
Older versions (4.7...) don't show this behavior.
I use Opensuse linuxes, but seems to me, it isn't related to this.
Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection
exists, seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why
and don't know since which version this is the behavior.
Thx for any answer
cu joerg
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www.teddylinx.de
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:26:04 +0100 (CET)
From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury shurup com>
To: Joerg Thuemmler <listen vordruckleitverlag de>
Cc: mc gnome org
Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection
Message-ID: <alpine LRH 2 20 1612200924140 1702 vps zaytsev net>
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection
exists,
seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why and don't
know since which version this is the behavior.
That must be Samba, try re-compiling without it if you don't need it, or
else fix your system such that DNS resolution will work irrespectively of
whether you've got an Internet connection or not.
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:35:49 +0100 (CET)
From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury shurup com>
To: Joerg Thuemmler <listen vordruckleitverlag de>
Cc: mc gnome org
Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection
Message-ID: <alpine LRH 2 20 1612200935050 1702 vps zaytsev net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer version
of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o works, but
immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc -U. If I'm
root, subshell works, setting /usr/bin/mc setuid works too, but is not
wanted... Is there a user group I have to be in or some other user
rights limitation I have to change?
Apparently the shell you have as a user is not detected properly.
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:52:35 -0500
From: Felix Miata <mrmazda earthlink net>
To: mc gnome org
Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection
Message-ID: <845fa369-53f3-d530-0e89-af2f29013274 earthlink net>
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Joerg Thuemmler composed on 2016-12-20 08:19 (UTC+0100):
...
I use Opensuse linuxes, but seems to me, it isn't related to this.
How old is your openSUSE?
Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection
exists, seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why
and don't know since which version this is the behavior.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824729 may be what you see
(hostname related). IIRC, you can avoid the delay by making sure /etc/hosts
properly contains your hostname.
I'm pretty sure you can use a newer mc version from a supported openSUSE
release
without any issues, except for latest, 4.8.18, which is broken.
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:16:42 +0100
From: Joerg Thuemmler <listen vordruckleitverlag de>
To: mc gnome org
Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection
Message-ID: <5859050A 70705 vordruckleitverlag de>
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Am 20.12.2016 um 09:35 schrieb Yury V. Zaytsev:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer
version of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o
works, but immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc
-U. If I'm root, subshell works, setting /usr/bin/mc setuid works too,
but is not wanted... Is there a user group I have to be in or some
other user rights limitation I have to change?
Apparently the shell you have as a user is not detected properly.
Hi,
thx. Do you know, how mc detects the shell? It's in both cases (root and
user) classical login with bash, never manipulated there anything...
cu jth
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www.teddylinx.de
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:45:42 +0100 (CET)
From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury shurup com>
To: Joerg Thuemmler <listen vordruckleitverlag de>
Cc: mc gnome org
Subject: Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet
connection
Message-ID: <alpine LRH 2 20 1612201142540 1702 vps zaytsev net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote:
thx. Do you know, how mc detects the shell?
https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/blob/0cc22928afbc6e23eb0fa5c85fd95518d8151edc/lib/shell.c
It's in both cases (root and user) classical login with bash, never
manipulated there anything...
I seriously doubt it, because otherwise it would have worked out of the
box. A good test is to create a brand new fresh user, log in as this new
user and start mc. If it works, then it means that you've botched your
user profile. If it doesn't work, maybe you've botched system profile.
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
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