Re: [PMH] Re: [Nautilus-list] Idea for Nautilus and GMC.

[Pavel Machek <pavel ucw cz>]

Hi!

> > Such installers are evil.
> >
> > If you must, make it so that right-click on package and selecting
> > install automagically installs package. (Double-click on package
> > should still open it as a .tar file).
>
> Such installers are necessary.
>
> I would not expect my mother to install some set of packages using rpm
> from an xterm. How else would you expect to install something like GNOME
> when you don't have gnorpm, red-carpet, or nautilus? Installers like
> these are required to bootstrap the desktop environment.

We are not talking about bootsrap here. Miguel wants to modify
nautilus, so this is case when you have already Nautilus
installed. Installed nautilus means that you probably have gnorpm
already, right?

> Also, double-clicking on a package should not open up a new window as if
> it were a tarball. Sure, listing the files along with other package
> information is fine, but one should not be able to pull out or
> manipulate files from a package as if it were a tarball: it isn't.

No?

.rpm is ugly header + cpio archive.

.deb is ar archive + tar archive.

Looks pretty close to tarball to me.

> For things like Loki games or Nautilus, perhaps dedicated installers are
> overkill, but they filled a need when things like Red Carpet or apt-get
> weren't available. But if installers are evil, they are a necessary
> evil.

Well, I can tolerate installers for things like RedHat7, where it is
reasonably hard to install by hand. (Still I'm happy with Debian where
intallation *can* be reasonably done by hand).
                                                                Pavel
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