Re: GNOME weekly roundup (was Re: community managers)

[Emily Gonyer <emilyyrose gmail com>]

Sri, essentially you're talking about setting up a dedicated GNOME
channel on IRC for this sort of stuff, is that right? One anyone could
subscribe to and get updates when they are posted. If we do so (and
I'm not opposed to) we need to ensure we have fresh content, else
it'll become yet another empty message.

One additionall thing we could do beyond simply posting them, would be
to transcribe them. This would benefit us twice - it would serve to
provide subtitles for the videos and could also be posted seperately
for those with slow connections who are interested but don't have the
time to download videos. (Yes, you guessed it right, this does indeed
still include me. xD) Perhaps we could post the transcript to
gnome.org as part of the news release about them.

Emily



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me> wrote:
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>
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> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Karen Sandler <karen gnome org> wrote:
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>> On Wed, November 14, 2012 7:58 am, alex diavatis wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis
>> > <alexis diavatis gmail com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like:
>>
>> I love the idea of maybe doing a weekly audio recording of this week in
>> GNOME. I could potentially do this as an interview with a different key
>> person each week, if it's not too long. Perhaps a half hour each time? I'm
>> wary of video as I think that will take a lot of work...
>>
>
> slightly off topic:
> The youtube channel idea seemed pretty good but it was hard to manage.
> Mostly because I had a hard time figuring out how to tag posts for GNOME.
> Maybe I'm missing something there.  Design guys are always throwing up video
> on their thoughts.  A missing opportunity IMHO.
>
>>
>> Do others think this is a good idea? Alex, would you want to help with it?
>>
>
> It depends.  I would set it up almost like an RSS feed postcast.  That would
> make it more automatic and something people can subscribe to.
>
> sri
>
>>
>> karen
>>
>>
>> >> This week in Gnome...[ie new features]
>> >> We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API]
>> >> In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop]
>> >> In Gnome 3.. [tech news]
>> >>
>> >> It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can
>> >> rotate
>> >> This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on.
>> >>
>> >> YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you
>> >> will have a more "personal"
>> >> connection with people.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME
>> > developer/designer] sooorry :)
>> > - alex
>> >
>> >>
>> >> - alex
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy <seif lotfy com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team
>> >>> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think
>> >>> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the
>> >>> community
>> >>> team.
>> >>>
>> >>> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public
>> >>> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have
>> >>> some
>> >>> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team.
>> >>>
>> >>> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and
>> >>> externally.
>> >>> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g:
>> >>> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all
>> >>> "high
>> >>> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this?
>> >>>
>> >>> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need
>> >>> to
>> >>> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own
>> >>> modules
>> >>> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and
>> >>> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on,
>> >>> make
>> >>> people inside the community get along, reduce friction.
>> >>>
>> >>> As a community team another mission would be working on communication
>> >>> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky,
>> >>> arrogant
>> >>> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication
>> >>> efforts have to promoted and praised.
>> >>>
>> >>> Just my 2 cents
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Seif
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary <dneary gnome org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because
>> >>>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or
>> >>>>> perceived actions.  For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet
>> >>>>> again
>> >>>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of
>> >>>>> maintenance
>> >>>>> and sustainability.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our
>> >>>> vision,
>> >>>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision
>> >>>> has
>> >>>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not
>> >>>> got
>> >>>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For
>> >>>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that
>> >>>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the
>> >>>> GNOME
>> >>>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME
>> >>>> community
>> >>>> (and
>> >>>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors -
>> >>>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>  After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to
>> >>>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their
>> >>>>> application.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I disagree with your analogy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>  I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers.  10 volunteers who start
>> >>>> out
>> >>>> as
>> >>>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing
>> >>>>> other
>> >>>>> things within the project.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I currently have four as of right now.  Need to recruit six more!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the
>> >>>> rot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> Dave.
>> >>>>
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