Today we basically discussed: - The website. 3 essential bugs to be solved (tavon is working on them as I write this report): block and page listing presentations, block and page listing news, and operative sponsors block in the homepage. Having more Drupal / PHP / web hackers involved would be really helpful. - Registration. Devin and I are going to meet at 00.00 Vilanova time to finish a functional version, incorporating Murray's comments. We still need to know which VAT should we apply to the registration fees (16%?). Accommodation and meals have 7%. - Planning the human resources needed, specially during the GUADEC days, in order to launch clear volunteering requests and start building the volunteering team. Quim needs to update a go specific on http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC2006/TaskList - Danigo and Toni need to push and also define the needs from the local perspective. The log: qgil: halfline, lluis, tavon, toniher, vuntz, wingo - we are going to start the weekly meeting, who plans to attend? qgil: the topic today is basically the website and the online registration qgil: there is still ñplenty of things to do, if everybody is busy I'll just go ahead with the work qgil: tavon, I wish you were here qgil: but anyway qgil: I'll go and write the accommodation in Vilanova page, if someone bwant to discuss anything, here we are bolsh [~dave mne69-3-82-225-22-32 fbx proxad net] entered the room. ldng [~ldng 197 Red-83-42-91 dynamicIP rima-tde net] entered the room. ldng: hi qgil: hi there ldng: no meeting going on ?? qgil: I was the only active participant in the meeting, so I decided to meet with myself off-keyboard :) ldng: oh ! ldng: I see qgil: tavon and Devin aren't around either... ldng: bolsh, lluis, wingo and toniher aren't around ? (not to cite them :p) bolsh: Just got in ldng: hello then ! toniher: ep ldng ldng: did I awake some people ? ldng: sorry about that :D qgil: so, the defaulkt topic is website and online registration toniher: :) qgil: however, since the direct reponsible are not around, maybe you want to discuss something else bolsh: The website looks great qgil: as you wish bolsh: But I miss some things - actual news on the front page ldng: qgil, can you give a quick sum up ? (I'm still lagging behind on mail) qgil: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=website&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&component=guadec.org qgil: :) bolsh: A page with all the stories and a page with all the presentations, and I'd be happy :) qgil: ldng: we want to launch registration tomorrow, we are suposed to finish the work and test tonight ldng: oh ! Great !! qgil: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336202 major and urgent - I can0t do more without tavon bolsh: qgil: Ah - all my complaints are there qgil: bolsh: and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335256 - there are your two requests, this one major and urgent as well ldng: hey ! I just having a look at website, very nice ! bolsh: We should get some drupal hackers in to do the custom blocks for us in 5 minutes qgil: bolsh: do you have bugzilla account? bolsh: Yup bolsh: Of course ldng: I lov'it ! qgil: I wanted to CC you but I coiuldn't find your id qgil: bolsh: I've asked tavon if he needs help bolsh: qgil: bolsh gimp org qgil: he knows how to do everything, the problem seems to be availability, perhaps also the "entropic" way of working in a team + list + bugzilla context qgil: we need more Drupñal hackers and, BTW, let me tell you that it would be easier to get them if it would be clear that GNOME is going to go for a CMS in the mid terms qgil: hackers loike challenges, you know qgil: love challenges, I mean qgil: but anyway, today we have these bugs, maybe I should make a call to the list bolsh: qgil: I'll let you into a not a secret qgil: the problem is too that solving bugs require permissions, not only in the web interface bolsh: qgil: The GNOME website is more or less up for grabs bolsh: If you, or Thomas Wood, or someone else, proposes a new www.gnome.org infrastructure based on a CMS, we're game qgil: bolsh: thos told me, but there is something undercvurrent between we the webhackers bolsh: I was looking for civicms again today, and couldn't find it bolsh: Did it get moved? bolsh: We could use it now for sponsors contacts, speakers & keynotes, etc ldng: qgil, I have another topic, As the auto-proclamed master in chief of the galactic world of the guadec volonteer, I am going to pressure you now on to get the planning defined as soon as possible, I think this is important for local organisation ldng: of course I am aware that it goes a bit in the other way you would like it to go, you already told me qgil: bolsh: ok, let us launch the v1.0 and then I'll go for the CiviCRM stuff ldng: so I going to make some kind of requisite list for volonteer organisation qgil: ldng: great, I need pressure made by people assuming responsibilities :) ldng: on why it would be needed bolsh: qgil: I wonder what happened to it, though? Did you disable it at some stage? ldng: basically we've been talking with toniher about that, if we want volonteers to commit we on our side should be abble to commit on something like : ldng: you dedicate one morming you get one free ldng: kinf of ldng: so to organise things, if we have a defined planning, the sooner, the better qgil: bolsh: ttp://gnomedotorg.ourproject.org/index.php?q=civicrm/ qgil: http://gnomedotorg.ourproject.org/index.php?q=civicrm/ qgil: ldng: well, we have http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC2006/TaskList - and needs update qgil: ldng: what steps you suggest to do ldng: I just started to think of it qgil: ldng: my problem is that even when I'm half-libertaed I have no brain to push everything at a time ldng: I think we'll discuss it better the 8 around a table, face to face qgil: this is why is good to have people concentrating in something and then pushing me foir whatever he needs ldng: qgil, I know qgil: i.e. like bolsh with the keynotes qgil: ldng: I'll try to follow with wingo 's action items list and provide the updated list of tasks qgil: from that point I hope you can continue defining what is needed at a local levelñ ldng: qgil, I going on ideal case, of course it'll hard to achieve because it's a bit the other way around but at least it'll define things we would like to achieve qgil: as always, I will be helping, but it would be great to have someone (you) pushing this ldng: o toniher :D ldng: ;) qgil: it's a two way process: I can go from the general to the specifics, and people focusing in one task (i.e. video coverage) can go from the specifics to the general requests qgil: i n theory we find the magic tasklist with the inpuit of everybody :) ldng: yeah ***toniher is reading :) ldng: from your point of view doing the planning the later the better because it allow to give it shape with the three track we defined before qgil: what else ldng: on the orther hand, for local organisation the sooner the better qgil: nononon toniher: qgil: which would be our contact in Vilanova if we wanted to visit the campus on April 8. ldng: we need to find a middle point qgil: ldng: I would have delivered a tasklist with volunteers allocated in each task qgil: and a well defined budget qgil: if I would have been capable of doing this qgil: while having website, registration, sponsorship, inbfrastrucures, local groups etc going on :)= ldng: don't worry we'll try to do it, the 8 if possible toniher: gqil: I would contact them for confirming we would be there around visiting the place... qgil: as I say, I'll try to iupdate the tasklist sooner qgil: toniher: Núria and Carles are in the process of registering to the list. Once they are inside I'll introduce everyone and then you can stay in contact directly qgil: Núria and Carles = Vilanova contacts toniher: qgil: Perfect. qgil: also, I talked to Andreu Ibáñez from IWS - Hispalinux etc qgil: he is the organizer of the Jornades de Programari Lliure de LLeida qgil: he is been helping since the first meeting, back in Feb 2005 or so, when Jordi Mas came with the idea of preparing a candiday qgil: he is only not the type of person to play with a wiki etc, but can be really helpfulk qgil: I asked him to join guadec-loc qgil: and I've suggested him to be in charge of the printed program, since he has experience in such things qgil: he kind of agreed, and we need to get into details now - in the list qgil: it would be good if he could join the meeting the 8th qgil: toniher: how many people do we have in guadec-loc qgil: al? do you think it's already kind of representative of the local groups? qgil: ok, and today I had an idea for a pretty cool and unique GUADEC t-shirt... see the end of http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336206 toniher: qgil: There are 19 people ldng: qgil, no not yet, I don't think ldng: but I contacted someone from Badopi bolsh: qgil: Thanks :) bolsh: For the keynotes thing ldng: he'll spread the word toniher: qgil: I will try to push some other local groups (which I do not currently have direct contact) toniher: I hope that after the public announciation of the meeting I would prepare a note this week, some other people may also join qgil: briefly said, I think that if softcatalà, caliu, badopi, guifi.net and that group of free software students at the UPC (can't remember the name) are inside, getting the rest wonp't be that difficult ldng: y barrapunto, we should not forget :) toniher: I will prepare a note for SC, Farga and also in Spanish for Barrapunto qgil: barrapunto is at the end David Poblador, who is generally busy and I've already invited to join the list qgil: ops qgil: sorry qgil: I mixed Barrapunto / Puntbarra toniher: qgil, I have seen qgil: too bilingual :) ***toniher must go to prepare dinner. I will read what you write down. I will be back in 1-2 hours qgil: ok, in barrapunto we have Alvaro del Castillo, GNOME hacker and GUADEC vet qgil: this sounds like a nice dinner :) Devin [Devin 112 Red-83-36-50 staticIP rima-tde net] entered the room. mode (+o Devin ) by OuComBalla ldng: must go too ldng: sorry ldng: bye qgil: to talk about something very urgent and important ;) what do you think about the idea of an official GUADEC T-Shirt with the GUADEC 2006 tag cloud printed on it qgil: by ldng, hi Devin qgil: unos van , otros vienen, así es la vida :) ldng: eso es, tchao ldng left the room (quit: Leaving). Devin: hi and yes :) Devin: just arribed from office Devin: :( qgil: oh man, I wish you finsih your current duties so you can guadec-relaxe a bit Devin: yup, i will on it later qgil: bolsh: have you got the opportunity to chek the registration tool? qgil: bolsh: did you see my question about VAT? bolsh: No on both counts Devin: i can do all murray's petitions tonite qgil: bolsh: my question was wether the registration fees (30€ / 150€) have + VAT or if VAT is included there qgil: how was in Stuttgart? qgil: Devin: I'd like to check with you the tool before you go to sleep, so we know that at least for you and me it's ready Devin: ok, no prob Devin: i will start working on it arround 00.00 qgil: also, Devin I'll need assistance to moive from beta.guadec.org to guadec.org keeping automatic redirects for those clicking on old urls i.e. beta.guadec.org/about ---> guadec.org/about qgil: Devin: ok Devin: if u want to be away 'til i start working on it Devin: u can send me ur cell number Devin: and i can do a "lost" call qgil: Devin: I'll be around anyway because I have other things to do qgil: i.e. accommodation in vilanova info page :) qgil: but a break to have dinner wil be good, yes bolsh: qgil: In general, in Europe, as you know, the printed price includes VAT. bolsh: So that would be €30, after tax bolsh: And conferences in Spain probably have at least 15% VAT qgil: Hum, we'll need to chek this qgil: Devin: you go to conferences :) any idea? qgil: bolsh: I'm asking because the registration has a checkout and an email sent to you with all the details qgil: we know accommodationd and meals have 7% VAT, but no idea about registration qgil: ok, we'll investigate the VAT thing qgil: but in the meantime let's agree the prices include VAT. qgil: (can it be a 16%? no idea) bolsh: qgil: Some things in France are at 19.6% tavon: hey guys... tavon: sorry for being late... qgil: CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP :) tavon: i've been sick and I just got up qgil: hum, then maybe you simply should go back to the bed :) tavon: blah... tavon: maybe.. i'm much better though tavon: i'll be okay qgil: tavon: from all the open bugs you can pick just three and make happy bolsh and me :) tavon: okay... :p qgil: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335256 bolsh: :) qgil: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336202 ***bolsh has been browsing Drupal snippets qgil: (these two make bolsh happy) bolsh: http://drupal.org/node/4587 bolsh: http://drupal.org/node/34162 qgil: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336025 (this one makes me happy) bolsh: http://drupal.org/node/33462 bolsh: But I don't really know how to use the snippets tavon: bolsh: you can create a block. it gives you 3 different styles 1) filtered html, 2) php code 3) full html. you need to selected 2) php code after you copy and paste the php snippets from drupal.org qgil: tavon: any question about these three bugs? qgil: it would be good to have them clear now so you can go ahead tavon: qgil: not really tavon: qgil: did you turn on caching? qgil: no tavon: qgil: when working with themes we need to keep caching off. or at least turn it off then and back on, b/c caching will keep the frontpage in memory/db instead show the updated version qgil: tavon: cache is disabled in settings right now and these days tavon: qgil: the fluendo logo issue might have to do with the theme tavon: qgil: I might have copy and pasted the block html code from the last frontpage instead of have it update dynamiacally tavon: ie. it's hard coded qgil: tavon: this is what I imagined qgil: about the footerm, is it hardcoded too? tavon: tavon: the database on the site and my copy on my machine is out of sync and the block CSS id's are different qgil: ther biug one, I mean tavon: qgil: yes qgil: tavon: of for now, but it's not good practice qgil: I mean, ok for now :) tavon: qgil: about the footer, unless i create a new module, it's not easy to provide a textarea to add content to the footer tavon: qgil: i know :/ qgil: the textarea in settings can't do the work? qgil: tavon: for the footer I mean tavon: qgil: well... it does work tavon: qgil: i'll use that for not then\ tavon: now then qgil: anyway, all this are small details tavon: qgil: did we get teh registration code up yet? qgil: apart from this 3 bugs I see anoither issue that wil come when we start introducing the new sponsoirs to come: qgil: how you put 3 gold and 5 silver or so with the current design qgil: ask Devin about registration tavon: qgil: the 3 gold 5 silver can be rearranged to horizontally if needed tavon: better yet qgil: about tregistration see current statuisd at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/guadec-list/2006-March/msg00097.html qgil: the idea is to finish it tonight tavon: we can move the "if you register you can.." above one of the news listing and have the sponsors use up the whole right column qgil: this would be good qgil: the golkd should appear at least qgil: in the default screen, without scrolling qgil: in fact, the You Can can go below qgil: since people looking for "what can I do" can scroll tavon: qgil: okay qgil: this way the users just hitting the homepage to see what's new get everything without searching much qgil: question: did you design the banner? tavon: qgil: it's mroe like a place holder tavon: qgil: anybody is welcome to create a few more banners to sprinkle around the site bolsh: Night all tavon: bolsh: nite qgil: but did you design the banner? It really cool bolsh: tavon: I added a latest stories block, but it doesn't work qgil: bolsh, nite tavon: bolsh: did you enable it? tavon: qgil: yes, I did design it bolsh: tavon: Yes, at one stage I saw the header, but not the stories bolsh left the room (quit: bolsh). tavon: bolsh: don't delete teh block, I"ll take a look at it and figure out the problem qgil: tavon: more questions about the bugs, I'll need to go for dinner before coming back a 00.00 to work with Devin in the registrations tavon: I'll online for the next 2 hours tavon: then I'll be moving to a cafe and working from there qgil: ok, I'll be back sooner tavon: from 7:00pm to 9:30pm tavon: okay ***tavon starts working on the bugs -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org
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