Re: [GtkGLExt] Module proposal: GtkGLExt for GNOME 2.22 (fwd)

[Stéphane Brunet <stbru teksavvy com>]

Eric Jonas a écrit :
> > I have to disagree with you. By integrating it to Gnome, it will "lock" 
> > it to the Gnome desktop in the mind of many people. If they are not 
> > using Gnome, they would tend to think that the OpenGL extension is only 
> > available on (or working with) a proper installation of Gnome desktop. 
> >     
>
> I disagree that this would be a major problem; most of the users I
> interact with are aware that software labeled as "gnome" does not
> require one to use the whole gnome ball of wax. Even the gtk mailing
> list archives  and bugtracker are hosted on gnome.org. 
>
>   
I am sure that the user you interact with are more geeky than the 
average person. ;-)
> Moreso, by having it be a Gnome module, it might increase the widespread
> adoption of the extension. 
>
>   
One could even more say that from integrating it to GTK+
> Finally, holy crap people, it's currently _unmaintained_. If we don't
> let -someone- pick it up, it'll suffer bitrot. The c++ wrapper I use
> (gtkglextmm) already appears to be missing from the latest ubuntu
> repositories.
>
>   
Please watch your language! Your are in a public place here.

It has been maintained by a "missed in action" person for a few years 
before Timothy Shead took back the whole project. It survived well and I 
am sure someone will take over this task really soon.

There are still some issues concerning the "packaging" process but the 
core of gtkglext can be kept almost "as-is". The wrappers have to be 
updated. As for the Python wrapper, I have been invovlved in providing 
the Windows binary distribution for more than a year now.
> > I don't understand what prevent us from integrating OpenGL support 
> > directly to GTK.
> >     
>
> I heard rumors that gtk+ was having maintainer issues, and are already
> pretty hosed. On top of that, there's this bug: 
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119189
>   
Yes, I am aware of it for about a year now. As for the rumors about 
GTK+, I don't know them and I don't take rumors into account in my 
decision process.
> Towards the end, they decided they didn't really care for the gtkglext
> design, and someone had offered to pursue gldrawarea. It then appears to
> have been dropped on the floor. 
>   
My personal feeling about gldrawarea is that it is too restrictive. 
That's why gtkglext was so popular. It would be a pity to put gldrawarea 
as the OpenGL extension in GTK+ rather than gtkglext.
The reason they didn't care is maybe because they are too busy with 
other parts of GTK ? Wherever gtkglext will be integrated (or not), a 
specific maintainer will still be needed.

Regards,

Stéphane