Re: [GtkGLExt] Module proposal: GtkGLExt for GNOME 2.22 (fwd)
- From: Stéphane Brunet <stbru teksavvy com>
- To: Eric Jonas <jonas mwl mit edu>
- Cc: gtkglext-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [GtkGLExt] Module proposal: GtkGLExt for GNOME 2.22 (fwd)
- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:36:33 -0400
Eric Jonas a écrit :
I am sure that the user you interact with are more geeky than the
average person. ;-)
I have to disagree with you. By integrating it to Gnome, it will "lock"
it to the Gnome desktop in the mind of many people. If they are not
using Gnome, they would tend to think that the OpenGL extension is only
available on (or working with) a proper installation of Gnome desktop.
I disagree that this would be a major problem; most of the users I
interact with are aware that software labeled as "gnome" does not
require one to use the whole gnome ball of wax. Even the gtk mailing
list archives and bugtracker are hosted on gnome.org.
Moreso, by having it be a Gnome module, it might increase the widespread
adoption of the extension.
One could even more say that from integrating it to GTK+
Finally, holy crap people, it's currently _unmaintained_. If we don't
let -someone- pick it up, it'll suffer bitrot. The c++ wrapper I use
(gtkglextmm) already appears to be missing from the latest ubuntu
Please watch your language! Your are in a public place here.
It has been maintained by a "missed in action" person for a few years
before Timothy Shead took back the whole project. It survived well and I
am sure someone will take over this task really soon.
There are still some issues concerning the "packaging" process but the
core of gtkglext can be kept almost "as-is". The wrappers have to be
updated. As for the Python wrapper, I have been invovlved in providing
the Windows binary distribution for more than a year now.
Yes, I am aware of it for about a year now. As for the rumors about
GTK+, I don't know them and I don't take rumors into account in my
I don't understand what prevent us from integrating OpenGL support
directly to GTK.
I heard rumors that gtk+ was having maintainer issues, and are already
pretty hosed. On top of that, there's this bug:
My personal feeling about gldrawarea is that it is too restrictive.
That's why gtkglext was so popular. It would be a pity to put gldrawarea
as the OpenGL extension in GTK+ rather than gtkglext.
The reason they didn't care is maybe because they are too busy with
other parts of GTK ? Wherever gtkglext will be integrated (or not), a
specific maintainer will still be needed.
Towards the end, they decided they didn't really care for the gtkglext
design, and someone had offered to pursue gldrawarea. It then appears to
have been dropped on the floor.
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