Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

[Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner gmail com>]

Thanks Igor for the wxWidgets clarification.

On 9/18/17, Igor Korot <ikorot01 gmail com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Carsten Mattner
> <carstenmattner gmail com> wrote:
> > On 9/18/17, Ian Chapman <ichapman videotron ca> wrote:
> > > This is not a troll, only a trawler as in fishing boat. I found the
> > > discourse on “traditional file chooser” quite interesting and
> > > informative. I'm using glade 3.18.3 and I'm able to do useful work so
> > > possibly I'm off subject.
> > >
> > > Point 1
> > >
> > > In glade I can select GtkMenuItem and GtkImageMenuItem and when I look
> > > at the GTK+ 3 Reference Manual the latter is depreciated. It's working
> > > great so I wonder what depreciated actually implies? At some time in the
> > > future will it vanish and working software will fail or simply fail to
> > > compile on the newer distribution?
> >
> > That's how I interpret it. Case in point Raleigh theme which was never,
> > from what I can tell, intended to be a replacement for the Gtk2 Raleigh
> > theme. It didn't look right and now it just looks completely broken.
> > If something is supposed to be removed, there's no need to make 3.x
> > seem like it supports it and remove it in 4.x, when the version in 3.x
> > isn't supported and working by sheer luck. This is what I read from the
> > info I can gather and not meant to be an attack. I'm just trying to
> > stitch
> > together a picture.
> >
> > > Point 2
> > >
> > > Lots of acronyms were mentioned. Qt was one and it's in the LMDE
> > > repositories. Wiki has a long list of GUIs in
> > > “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_widget_toolkits” but only a few
> > > could be of interest. In any case there would be a learning curve to use
> > > any them and maybe no glade which greatly simplifies Gtk for me. Is
> > > there an evaluation on these alternative GUIs?
> >
> > With all due respect and apologies to the list admins, allow me to
> > answer this here although it's kinda advertising for "competitors".
> >
> > Ian, Qt and FLTK have GUI builders and FLTK generates code, not markup.
> > Qt is used heavily with the declarative variant QML in entertainment
> > systems of cars and such. If QML is something that works for you
> > and the licensing is compatible, then consider a lunch break checking
> > it out.
> > If you're writing engineering software that doesn't have requirement
> > that mandate Qt or Gtk, then FLTK or IUP have been used successfully
> > in that domain.
> >
> > Qt has Haskell bindings (Qtah).
> > wxWidgets has Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt5 backends and bindings pretty much
> > everywhere, but there's no GUI builder I know of.
>
> wxWidgets does have GUI builders - wxGlade, wxFormBuilder, wxCrafter to
> name a few.
> It also works on both MS Windows and OSX without any issues.
>
> If you requirements are to have a "native look and feel" of the software
> then wxWidgets is the way to go.
>
> The license is free for both O/S and commercial applications.
>
> It has bindings for all popular languages - Python, Perl, Ruby.
>
> On Linux GTK is the most developed and most mature port.
> wxQt is relatively new and wxX11 (so called Universal) is not actively
> developed. wxMotiff is really outdated and will be removed in future
> versions.
>
> Thank you.
>
> > FLTK has a GUI builder and the Haskell bindings also generate
> > Haskell code when using the GUI builder. Just in case you had
> > interest in a different language.
> > IUP is plain C and has been used in many brazilian industrial
> > applications. Check the screenshots section.
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