Re: menu accelerators
- From: Lars Clausen <lrclause cs uiuc edu>
- To: gtk-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: menu accelerators
- Date: 02 Dec 2000 11:23:12 -0600
On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Guy Harris wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 01:51:57AM -0600, Lars Clausen wrote:
>>> I don't think that's ever gotten in my way; however, it *might* surprise
>>> somebody used to Windows (where I think the Alt key can be down or not
>>> when the menu-item mnemonic is pressed) or, I think, Motif (which, if I
>>> remember correctly, requires that you *keep* the Alt key down).
>> Very possible. I feel (but not strongly) that the underline markup should
>> go away in favor of right-hand changeable shortcuts. The underline markup
>> is an ugly mix of name and functionality.
> Perhaps, but, for what it's worth, it's used on a number of toolkits
> (Windows, Motif, Qt, GTK+) and my fingers have gotten quite used to it,
> so I'd be unhappy if it were completely removed.
True. Ironically, it can create a style of accelerating that becomes close
to how Emacs commands are entered (Quit: Alt-f Alt-x vs. Ctrl-x Ctrl-c).
> Heck, Ethereal uses them in places *other* than menus; I *really really
> really really* like being able to drive a UI without having to fondle
> the rodent.
I understand that. And I don't suppose you'd be happy with just using the
> I feel strongly that they shouldn't go away, but perhaps allowing the
> user to globally specify that they don't *personally* want them would be
Yes, that would be a Good Thing[tm].
Or how about this: If the menu is opened with Alt-*, the Alt-* commands
work as normal, but if it's opened with the mouse, they are just another
set of keycombos for accelerators. Or is that non-intuitive?
 Sometimes I feel that the word 'non-intuitive' has the same use in GUI
discussions as 'communist' in the 50ies.
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