Re: Pushing text onto the selection buffer

[Guy Harris <gharris flashcom net>]

On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 02:50:30PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> Guy Harris <gharris@flashcom.net> writes: 
> > So is getting the folks at TrollTech to follow the spec, or getting the
> > KDE folks to pressure the folks at TrollTech to follow the spec,
> > something that freedesktop.org can address?
> 
> Hrm, I could send them mail. I kind of suspect it's a FAQ though, I'm
> sure they've had people bring it up before...

Well, there's a couple of messages on qt-interest from back in late
1997:

	Subject: Paste to Motif
	From: Ross Linder <ross@mecalc.co.za> - other postings
	Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:29:46 +0200 (SAT)
	Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971112162023.9092F-100000@wanda.mecalc.co.za>

	Using Motif 2.0 I can highlight text in a XmTextField using MB1 and
	drop it into any QtLineEdit using the center mouse button.

	From a Qt application I can highlight the text (somnewhat less
	successfully as tripple clicks don't work :-( ) BUT it won't
	paste into any text fields

	This is a problem as I begin migrating from Motif to Qt since most of
	my applications are still in Motif.

	/Ross

	-- 
	 [ signature omitted ]

	Subject: Re: Paste to Motif
	From: Arnt Gulbrandsen <agulbra@troll.no> - other postings
	Date: 12 Nov 1997 15:44:22 +0100
	Message-ID: <m3ra8mrx2w.fsf@lupinella.troll.no>

	I just tried pasting it in motif style, and it works just like Motif
	for me.

	Perhaps you tried in in Windows style?  Qt works like Windows in
	Windows style - you have to press control-c to copy the marked text to
	the clipboard.

	--Arnt

I don't know whether that behavior is a consequence of Qt "copying the
marked text to the clipboard" by making the PRIMARY selection, but not
the CLIPBOARD selection, refer to it, or not.

(That was found by a search for "clipboard" on Troll Tech's Web site. 
No obvious FAQ-like items were found, but maybe some of the
documentation items it found mention it.

The Qt technical FAQ at

	http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faq/tech.html

doesn't mention the clipboard at all.

I shall see if I can find any KDE FAQs that mention it.)

I *really* wonder whether anybody's asked them why, if you pop up two
"kedit"s, select some text in one of them, copy it with the "Edit->Copy"
menu item, select some *other* text in it, and then do a paste with
"Edit->Paste" in the other "kedit", it pastes the *selected* text, not
the *copied* text.  I suspect this is Qt's fault, not kedit's fault....

Once KDE 2.0 comes out, I'll probably install it on my home machine; I
may then look into fixing Qt to obey the ICCCM, and, if I can get that
to work, send it off to the Trolls as a patch, complete with
explanations of why it's the Right Thing To Do.