Re: Sudden Tango changes in trunk
- From: Yevgen Muntyan <muntyan tamu edu>
- To: Tristan Van Berkom <tvb gnome org>
- Cc: gtk-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Sudden Tango changes in trunk
- Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:47:37 -0500
Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:38 +0200, Kristian Rietveld wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:49:44PM +0200, Jakub Steiner wrote:
[...]
The concern which I want to raise, and which I already did in my
previous mail, is the following: "Does updating icons account as a
break of backward compatibility?". Running a GTK+ application which
has some custom drawn icons with the new stock icons, might make those
custom icons look out of place. A GTK+ application which is putting a custom
drawn "overlay" on a new stock icon might look out of place. And, for
example Gossip, is using the gtk-justify-left icon as an icon for the
"View Previous Conversations" menu item -- this might also break with a
new stock icon which is using a different metaphor to communicate the
intention of the item to the user. Or is using a stock item for a
different action as intended seen as a misuse of the API? I am sure
Gossip is not the only application doing this.
FWIW, I think its better for everyone if that would be considered a
misuse of the api - I dont think gtk+ makes any gauruntees about
what a "next" or "apply" icon will look like, changing these icons
on a regular basis can even help teach applications to be more
diligent in thier use of the api.
I think it is clear that if you use "gtk-foo" icon for "bar" then
you're misusing it. But let's not forget about the reasons for
doing it: there may simply be no other alternative other than no
icon at all. gtk icons set is not exactly rich to cover even simplish
non-stock metaphors, and if a programmer wants to have an
icon for "foobarize" he will use "gtk-jump-to". Yes, bad and all that.
Icon theme maintainers say that's plain wrong and bad for
user and everything, but what can we do?
Best regards,
Yevgen
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