Re: Compiling for Windows [Was: argv revisited]

[Dov Grobgeld <dov grobgeld gmail com>]

Another equivalent scons-based way of compiling for windows with gcc is
shown in my program giv.

See: https://github.com/dov/giv/blob/master/SConstruct

SCons uses the Sconstruct files to do the cross-compilation and also calls
out to nsis to create a windows installer.

The complete gtk run time is only about 20MB in size (at least for gtk2)
which with todays hard disk sizes really is negligable, so I agree that
there is no reason to try to create a common gtk runtime.

I still remember the frustration back in the days when there was a common
run environment and installing glade would make inkscape or gimp fail, or
vice verse. Individual run time environments is really the way to go!

For a peak into the bad old days, see e.g. the following thread:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.gtk%2B.general/16828


Regards,
Dov

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Allin Cottrell <cottrell wfu edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> On 2016-05-03 16:57, Florian Pelz wrote:
> > > I'd like to have one standard GTK+ installer for the GTK+ DLLs etc. that
> > > can be downloaded and installed from other installers, so there is just
> > > one GTK+ installed on Windows instead of one copy of perhaps different
> > > versions of GTK+ for each application.
> >
> > That's been a longstanding desire of many people. The other side of the
> > argument of course is that all the applications have to be compatible with
> > that particular version of the libraries, which has sometimes proven to be
> > problematic even when the libraries ship with Windows. Expecting every
> > application to be updated every time there is a library update is not
> > realistic. It's not like a linux distro where the distro can update and
> > recompile all the dependencies itself.
>
> Yep, Florian's desire is a "natural" one from the point of view of anyone
> used to Linux but unfortunately it's totally impractical on MS Windows.
> It's a real No-No for any third-party package to install DLLs into system
> directories on Windows; this would likely break all sorts of things.
>
> It may seem like a terrible waste of disk space to install multiple
> per-application copies of GTK, but you just have to get over it. Basically
> the same on Mac OS X.
>
> (I might note: even on Linux, GTK updates are not necessarily harmless.
> For example, updating from GTK 3.18 to 3.20 breaks emacs and gnumeric; they
> still run, but they're damaged.)
>
> Allin Cottrell
>
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