Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Skype Video???

[Johnny Strom <jonny strom netikka fi>]

Jouni Lohikoski iki fi wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 09:14:12PM +0000, Conrad Beckert wrote:
>
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2005 10:45 schrieb Jouni Lohikoski iki fi:
> >
> > > , Skype will have bigger and bigger userbase
> > > and more steady position as a de facto standard video conferencing
> > > system. 
> >
> > Skype, Video??? I must have missed the news :-) As far as I know, and from 
> > what's on Skype's website, it is audio only.
>
>
> You are right, my mistake. But nevertheless, Skype is the de facto
> IP-phone and the masses just wait patiently when they will support video
> too. Do not doubt it won't happen.
>
>
> > > We are late, perhaps too late, already.<
> >
> > No, early :-) Gnomemeetings main competitors are Yahoo! MSN "videocats". It 
> > would have to show, that it does the job better.
>
>
> You cannot say early, as there is no working NAT compatible GM for MS Windows
> currently. I guess they use Yahoo and MSN videochat nowadays. But the
> userbase for Skype is huge and growing fast. When video feature is
> integrated to that, there is no point having GM for Windows anymore.
>
> // jouni

Hi

I think you have not understood that the point is that GM uses standards 
like SIP and H323 and such so that GM is compatible with other programs 
and hardware phones. It is like with an GSM phone so can you call from 
an Ericsson to an Nokia phone becouse they use standards.

Phone companies do not support Skype they support SIP/H323 for the reson 
that Skype is a total vendor lockin se:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lockin

They do not want to be in a vendor lockin situation and I can understand 
that wery well.

So please do not advertise Skype, becouse of it's secret protocol nature 
so is it a danger to the future of Internet as we know it today. If all 
protocols started to be like skype eg. no standard and everyting secret 
then the point of Internet will die and the communication will only work 
with a few vendors/programs in the future that all have become dependent 
on. Instead support standard and open protocols to make sure we have a 
open Internet in the future as well. This is an issue not only for open 
source it is an issue for everybody that uses Internet.


Thanks Johnny