Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] no incoming call sound (gnomemeeting.wav)

[Michael Hanke <michael_hanke gmx de>]

Hi Damien, thanks for your answer, I enjoy using GM very much.

Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com> scripsit:

> Le ven 10/05/2002 à 12:31, Michael Hanke a écrit :
>> Hi,
>> 

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>> 
>> I'm using KDE3.0 but have artsd disabled.
>> 
>> I've also tried /opt/gnome/bin/sound-properties to no avail: sound is
>> played if I press the 'play' button, esd is activated with:
>>  esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 2 -spawnpid 7555
>> 
>> 
>> Incoming calls are shown with the popup window and the status bar
>> docklet but no sound.
>> 
>> I had the stupid idea to run 'esddsp gnomemeeting' or 'artsdsp
>> gnomemeeting (with artsd)': no.
>> 
>
> Everything seems correct. But I already noticed on soem versions of
> Gnome that I had no incoming sound either. But it doesn't happen with GM
> only but with all gnome apps.
>
> Can you confirm this?

Not really, as I don't run any. That is, none with sounds (gnucash,
ggv). Then I started sawfish, which I normally don't, and activated
system sounds (maximize/close/popup windows etc.) and that worked.
Still no gnomemeeting.wav. 
Maybe that is only an issue with the suse rpms? Maybe the esd support
was disabled there? 
I will compile from source and see. 

I've found something in the archive of October 2001 about commands to be
executed on ring. Popup window and docklet animation are cool but they
can't be seen when in another room. So this would be a good thing from
a new GM user's point of view.

>
>> 
>> 
>> Leading the subject to sound daemons: is it possible to have
>> gnomemeeting running with any sound daemon like esd or artsd? 
>
> GnomeMeeting can use ESD if PWlib is compiled with it, but in that case,
> you can't use several different devices (like the microphone of your
> webcam for recording, and ESD for output. You have to use ESD for output
> and input). 
>
>> I'd like to listen to webradio, music, desktop sounds and stuff and
>> still I want to receive an incoming call sound signal or talk through
>> the GM connection.
>
> It is not possible yet. GnomeMeeting takes control of the soundcard when
> being in a call. But Im not sure that listening to webradio and music
> while talking to somebody is very common (and even very polite). Few
> people do that.


I think a usual behaviour might be having some radio stream, ICQ rings,
incoming mail beeps and other sounds and on incoming calls having GM
taking control of sounds. Even loosing the other sounds while making
calls is ok, when it doesn't mean stopping all sound services and
daemons by hand and restarting them after the call. This is the case
with artsd.

My hardware setup is the following. It might sound silly for some, but
I've reasons to like it: I've got wireless headphones/mic and use to walk
alot in my location from here to there arranging other things.
I don't have my eyes on the screen then but can react to acoustic
signals, like sensor warnings, system calls etc. If I still want those
while talking, I think I better get the other soundcard to work? 

> However, the incoming sound works (or should work) even if you are
> listening to radio, or music but that sound is played through ESD (no
> luck if you are using ARTSD), and it won't work if artsd is blocking or
> if some other program is already using the soundcard.

...except if that program is esd or using it?

>
> The sound daemon problem is a hard one. But apparently, there is hope
> for a common sound daemon between KDE and Gnome in the following months.
> That would make sense, and when it will happen, be sure that I will add
> support for it into PWLib.
>
>
>> A remedy would be a second soundcard which I have already
>> installed. What do other people do, 2 sets of boxes on your desktop?
>> 
>
> I'm listening to music through ESD with XMMS, the ring comes with teh
> popup, I answer the call, and the music becomes silent. I can talk.
> I disconnect, and the music comes back. That seems pretty common and
> useful for me...
>

I guess using esd is ok then, I can switch from xmms-arts to xmms-esd
quite easily. esd-enabled GM would tell esd to stop
other sounds while making calls? 


Thanks for your comments.
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