[GnomeMeeting-devel-list] Re: [OpenH323]VIDEO ISSUE SOLVED:Reg Latest Openh323 compilation in Linux



Le jeudi 02 septembre 2004 à 20:05 +1000, Craig Southeren a écrit :
> ..deleted
> 
> > Ah well, I don't think many users will find it normal to have
> > both /dev/video0 and "Philips ToUCam Pro" as available devices in the
> > list when it is the same. That's not logical.
> 
> I disagree :)
> 

OK, can you give me an example of program that lists the same device
several times? Any usability engineer will tell you that it is a wrong
approach.

> > To put it another way, the V4L plugin has now be adapted for ohphone
> > users, introducing a broken hack that will require to add another broken
> > hack in other user programs than ohphone so that they still work in a
> > clean way.
> 
> Well, not just ohphone but just about any other program that uses video.
> Except GM, of course.
> 

Any command-line program.

> > Having all devices listed twice is certainly not clean and is just a
> > hack. Removing duplicatas in user programs is another hack, but it is
> > your choice and I only gave my opinion :-)
> > 
> > > On a related issue, what happens with the friendly names if two
> > > identical devices are plugged in? How do you choose between them?
> > > 
> > 
> > A good plugin should add something like [1] at the end of the device
> > name.
> 
> The key word there is "should". There is no guarantee that all devices,
> or even drivers, are doing to do the right thing
> 
> There is also the situation where a device does not have a friendly name,
> or where the name is in a language not known to the user, or where the
> manufacturer or driver writer has chosen to use the field to store
> something like a serial number or hex data. I have seen all of these
> occur in fields that are supposed to be for "friendly" names, and it is
> always good to have a backup plan.

I agree that the plugin should be able to open the device with non-
friendly names, but I disagree that the list of supported devices should
contain both. But you are the maintainer, so you are free to change the
plugin if you think it is good. 

In the end, I can also ship a modified plugin with gnomemeeting if I
want to.
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