Re: [GnomeMeeting-devel-list] [Fwd: Re: URL bugs?]

[Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>]

> I think writting host.com should be enough if 1740 is the standard port
> (if not host.com:1740). As h323:// would be the most common prefix, GM
> should try that itself (in the same way the web brosers add the http://,
> http://www. or even ftp:// if the host name starts with ftp.

1720 is the standard port, so no need to put it when you call a remote
location. If the user has to call a different port, say 1740, he has to
write h323:@host.com:1740 and not h323:host.com:1740 like with callto.
That is the *whole* problem. If GM adds the "@" for the user, then GM
breaks the RFC. If GM respects the RFC, there is no way to guess that
host.com:1740 is not correct, so there is no guessing possible at all
here.

You proposed that GM writes itself the advanced URL. How could we do in
the present case?

Creating a GTK dialog to build valid URLs is not a problem for me, we
don't even need to support *all* URLs with that dialog, but only the
most common ones. Users are still free to write more advanced URLs by
hand if they need it. However I don't see how and where that dialog
could be called... In Tools ? URL Editor?

Do we understand correctly each other?

/me is drinking coffee now so that his brain works again



> 
> > (writing the 'h323:@host.com:1740' URL after having read the
> > documentation and clicking on connect is a right answer, but that's what
> > I call being counter-intuitive).
> > 
> > Le lun 02/06/2003 à 10:40, Miguel Rodríguez a écrit :
> > > El lun, 02-06-2003 a las 10:27, Christian Strauf escribió:
> > > > Hi Damien!
> > > > 
> > > > > Are we going back to callto: as default instead of h323: ?
> > > > >  
> > > > > There is an RFC about h323:, but it looks indeed counter-intuitive...
> > > > I would stick with the RFC because I tend to agree with Miguel's arguments.
> > > > This URL's definition has to be precise. Apart from that I really can't see why
> > > > the h323-URL definition is counter intuitive -- it's quite clear what to put in
> > > > which place. And to be honest: addressing a snail mail letter is more difficult
> > > > than using the h323-URL -- you need to write the name, the street, the
> > > > apartment-#, the postcode, the city and the national code onto a letter; and
> > > > all in the right order, and twice, the recipient and the source! Giving 3 or 4
> > > > examples in the documentation should be completely sufficient to understand,
> > > > how to use the h323:-notation.
> > > 
> > > 99% agree. Although examples in the documentation can be helpful, I
> > > still think writing urls by hand is a kind of "very advanced usage". In
> > > my opinion GM should write this urls for you 95% of the time, so most
> > > users wouldn't need to bother about this.
> > > 
> > > BTW, a useful feature would be a kind of signature generator or
> > > something like that, that based on your registration settings would
> > > generate a valid h323 url for you.
> > > > 
> > > > Just my 2-¤-Cents.
> > > > Christian
> > > 
> > > Le lun 02/06/2003 à 10:24, GnomeMeeting master a écrit :
> > > 
> > > > Well, I agree with you, but I don't understand if you answered to my
> > > > question or not...
> > > 
> > > Well, Christian managed to express myself (wow, what a sentence) much better than i did ;).
> > > 
> > > > PS: no coffee here yet either ;)
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