Re: Plans for 2.20

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 10:48 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:52 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:53 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > 
> > > So, it's time to start thinking about 2.20, since we have so many
> > > changes we want to do. Here's a list of the things I've been collection
> > > myself, to start the discussion:
> > <snip>
> > > * default apps:
> > > 	- Merge with AT capplet
> > > (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350263)
> > > 	- Add package install/remove commands, to enable the Upgrade/Remove
> > > items in the shell
> > What's that for?
> > 
> for upgrading/removing installed applications. That's something slab
> already has, that we disabled in upstream control-center, but that it
> might make sense.

This is a distribution-wide setup, at worse, a GConf-only option. The
user shouldn't have to choose, or be able to choose that. Distributions
should set it up properly out-of-the-box.

> > > * mouse:
> > > 	- Move to an 'input methods' capplet?
> > > 
> > > * proxy settings:
> > > 	- Extend it and call it 'Network'?
> > > 	- Move it to NetworkManager or gnome-system-tools?
> > 
> > NetworkManager doesn't have any settings of its own, really. The proxy
> > setting could host the multimedia network preferences (selection of
> > "speed").
> > 
> what other network settings might make sense in this user-centered
> capplet?

Maybe showing a list of the known NetworkManager networks, with the
ability to remove some of them, as well as VPN configurations.

> > > - Theme capplet:
> > > 	- Include mouse cursors as part of the theme settings
> > > 	- Include font settings as part   "       "     "
> > What's that last line?
> > 
> - INclude font settings as part of the theme settings
> 
> > > - Settings daemon:
> > > 	- Consolidate all xrdb calls into one
> > > (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314774)
> > Unbreak the number of gdk_window_add_filter, there's just too many (and
> > turning a11y on makes it install a filter that breaks other users of
> > gdk_window_add_filter)
> > 
> I was thinking on structuring the different subsystems in g-s-d to be
> more pluggable. That would allow 3rd party apps to install modules to be
> started with g-s-d. That would help in cleaning up the code, quite messy
> in some places right now. What do you think?

I think it's already hard to control what each part of g-s-d does while
all the code is available to us. Using another daemon (similar to KDE's
daemon-pluggable daemon) would be a better idea.

> > > - General:
> > > 	- Split into control-center and control-center-capplets?
> > > 	- See betterdesktop.org for more ideas on capplets
> > More ideas on removing capplets :)
> > 
> > How about a display capplet with screensaver, resolution settings and
> > desktop background?
> > 
> > An appearance one with theme, menus and toolbars and fonts?
> >
> they make sense to me. If we could have mockups, it would be easier to
> decide :-) But yeah, provided they don't get too cluttered, these 2
> things sound good to me.

Let's go filing bugs :)
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415702
and
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415703

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Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>