Re: www.gnome.org redesign status

[Vinicius Depizzol <vdepizzol gmail com>]

I take what Andreas says as my words too.

I work all day long with inkscape, html, css and js. You can count on me!

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 18:10, Andreas Nilsson <nisses mail home se> wrote:
> Christopher Warner wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org
>> <mailto:behdad behdad org>> wrote:
>>
>>    On 04/21/2009 03:45 PM, David Bain wrote:
>>
>>        Is there anything wrong with collecting donations in order to
>>        sponsor a
>>        single person or organization to implement the site. The
>>        Drupal guys
>>        have had to raise funds in order to sponsor redesign their own
>>        site!
>>        http://drupal.org/node/356002 (their target is $15,000).
>>
>>
>>    1) No one person can do this job,
>>
>>    2) Sponsoring someone to do it is the wrong approach, as it will
>>    start falling apart again as soon as the contract is over,
>>
>>    3) $15,000 can buy a contractor's services for a very short period
>>    of time. Nothing close to what it takes to get the job done.  What
>>    the Drupal guys are doing is to raise funds to sponsor sprints.
>>     That is, travel reimbursements. No one gets paid to work on it.
>>
>>    We are certainly interested in doing website hackfests.  But in
>>    the past, there were not enough people (read: 3) to fly to a
>>    hackfest to begin with.
>>
>>
>>
>>        I don't know if I speak for everyone, but I'm willing and have
>>        been
>>        willing to help out but it has come down to whether I can
>>        afford the time.
>>
>>
>>    See above.
>>
>>    behdad
>>
>>
>> To add my two cents I agree with Murray in the fact that this is something
>> simple. The problem is and has always been time. So in a sense I agree with
>> David as well.. No matter what the chosen technology the problem is one of
>> time and everyone working on this thus far has only gotten short stints of
>> time here and there. It's simply not enough to maintain the site.
>>
>> So my personal feelings aside it's not the technology; it's not like Gnome
>> can't find people capable of writing html or dealing with Plone or some
>> other CMS. It's that we need a group of people dedicated to getting an
>> initial version through with sufficient time to do so. A developer sprint
>> would be nice but i've tried that on numerous occasion and it hasn't worked.
>>
>> There simply needs to be a dedicated team with the time to work on the
>> redesign to completion. If that can't be done, this will lag on until then
>> and we'll have these discussions every 6 months.
>
> Here is the designer.
> I'm going to put other GNOME design stuff aside in order to focus on
> gnome.org up until 3.0.
> Going to start work in HTML, then we can put it in a CMS or wiki or whatever
> later. Worked for a couple of GNOME sites before.
> Will start running with this now, as I've grown a bit tired of waiting for
> stuff to happen. Hopefully others are interested in helping this get done as
> well.
> We'll see how it goes.
> - Andreas
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