Re: new highcontrast widgets?

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

I'm not sure exactly what the a11y POV was.  I'm guessing it may have 
been more than John Kodis' response:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-January/msg00431.html

"The WM close button is a more difficult control to access using 
standard keyboard navigation techniques."

I've recently started a discussion on the Orca users list regarding this 
topic.  My goal was to just have screen reader users provide their 
thoughts and then filter things to this discussion.

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2007-November/msg00053.html

So far, it's a mixed bag of responses.  I'm not sure I see any 
polarization one way or the other.

The 2002 desktop-devel-list thread above was very enlightening to me. 
IMO, the sample size was rather small and I'm not sure I actually 
followed the path that led to the conclusions.

However, while I was aware of 'instant apply' for things like a Palm 
Pilot, I wasn't aware the concept had been used in these dialogs. 
Instead, I always expect to have to do some sort of closure action to 
make sure my settings are applied.  At the same time, I usually assume I 
can always press "Escape" or something to revert things back to the way 
they were before I opened the dialog.  This gives me the freedom to 
experiment and not have to remember every last thing I changed to put 
things back to they way they used to be.

In addition, pressing "Close" feels good to me.  Pressing Alt+F4 always 
feels like a hammer to me:  I'll usually reopen the dialog to make sure 
the settings "took".  But, that's just one user's opinion.  :-)  If the 
hip way of the 21st century is 'less is more', I can work to adapt.

Will

Calum Benson wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 09:05 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > Just found a old discussion on desktop-devel-list regarding this.
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-January/msg00412.html
>
> Told you we'd been arguing about it for a while :)  Although I don't see
> the a11y POV represented in that thread, which is really what drove the
> final decision IIRC.
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.