Re: new highcontrast widgets?

[Andreas Nilsson <nisses mail home se>]

Just found a old discussion on desktop-devel-list regarding this.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-January/msg00412.html

Calum Benson wrote:
> On 6 Nov 2007, at 14:20, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
> > Willie Walker wrote:
> > > Hi Peter:
> > >
> > > Most definitely agreed on bringing users in -- it's something we've 
> > > done with Orca since day one and it works very well.  In my 
> > > experience working directly with end users, however, I've found that 
> > > specific examples serve as a better foundation for discussion than a 
> > > generalized problem statement.
> > >
> > > So, in order to better avoid overgeneralizing the problem/solution 
> > > too soon, I'd like to have some specific examples of dialogs with 
> > > "Close" buttons that are under consideration for removal.  With 
> > > these, we can go to the Orca user's list and have a discussion.
> > >
> > > Andreas, do you have examples of dialogs whose "Close" buttons might 
> > > be removed?
> > Hi!
> > This was something that was brought up during Ubuntu Developer Summit 
> > in some of the Desktop meetings, where Matthew Paul Thomas suggested 
> > that it would be good to get rid of the several ways to close a 
> > window in order to reduce duplication of information in some dialogs 
> > we were designing.
>
> Indeed.  FWIW, Matthew also agrees that Esc shouldn't close such windows:
>
> "Because an instant-apply window isn't a dialog, it's inappropriate 
> for it
>     to disppear with Enter or Escape (see also bug 302057), so it 
> consumes an
>     access key that then can't be used by any other control in any tab 
> in any
>     pane of the window."  
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302076
>
> > Does anyone know how other operating systems, like OSX solve this issue?
>
> The guideline-approved shortcut for Close in OS X is Cmd-W, which 
> works everywhere there's a close button in the titlebar (much like 
> Alt-F4 in metacity).  Esc usually activates Cancel buttons, although 
> last time I checked the OS X guidelines didn't say whether Cancel 
> actually ought to have a shortcut or not-- it's certainly not 
> mentioned here:
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75459
>
> The Windows guidelines explicitly say Esc for Cancel and Alt-F4 for 
> Close, but Windows apps don't tend to have the kind of dialog we're 
> talking about here.
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.