Re: web page with instructions for getting 'gnome 2' experience back

[Diego Fernandez <aiguo fernandez gmail com>]

Bob, I understand your frustration.  I too was very frustrated with
the changes in Gnome (especially how workspaces work).  I found (and
still find) it absolutely ridiculous that you have to hold alt while
the menu is open to access the Shutdown/Restart option.  I jumped on
board straight from the beginning, and it was a frustrating time
waiting for some of the extensions to come out and return some of my
lost functionality.

I had to spend hours reading up mailing lists, looking up sites... at
the time there was no centralized extensions website.  I know your
pain.  However, this is Linux... when has this NOT been the case?
Granted, I've only used mostly "hard" distros such as Gentoo, Arch,
and Fedora on the easier side, but I've always had to spend hours
setting up things the way I like....

Now, I'm not saying this is optimal, and there's very nice
documentation for most things like Arch and Gentoo, which I will agree
with you Gnome is still lacking.  However, this is a community effort.
 It takes effort from everyone, and it's not fair to expect everything
from something that you don't even have to pay for.

BTW, I am not a developer, designer, or contributor.  I just use Gnome
and thank those that make it for us, although I too went through a
time of venting my frustration.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bob Frazier <bobf mrp3 com> wrote:
> On 08/07/12 05:10, Diego Fernandez so wittily quipped:
>
>> Hmm... Most of this has been covered countless times.  I read your
>> page, and to tell you the truth I didn't find much useful information.
>
>
> it's not HOW MUCH information, but rather "putting it all in one place". I
> spent too much FRUSTRATING time when I installed Ubuntu 11.10 for a
> particular customer project, trying to figure out HOW TO USE SOMETHING that
> should have been intuitively obvious (but was not).  I had to come up with
> the right magick google search terms and check MANY places (usually blog
> sites and mailing list archives with unresolved similar problems).  By
> putting the CRITICAL information in ONE PLACE, people like me SHOULD be able
> to resolve this fast.  By letting YOU guys know about it, YOU should be able
> to put a "magic setting" button someplace to HELP PEOPLE GET PAST THIS
> QUICKLY.  Perhaps the 'hint' is that there ARE frustrated users who don't
> like gnome 3 PRIMARILY because of "Oh, CRAP now I have to RE-LEARN what I
> was once an EXPERT on" and "I don't have the necessary hours to waste
> re-doing this simply so I can get hardware support from the new version of
> XX" (or similar).  Linus Torvalds talked about updating his RH version to
> correct issues with X11 in one of the links on my site, and his FRUSTRATION
> with the fact that the update included gnome 3.  But I must say that from
> what I read a year ago, there HAVE been improvements, like the minimize and
> maximize buttons - or was that simply what Debian did to correct THAT
> deficiency?
>
>
>
>> You could look at the multiple extensions at extensions.gnome.org, you
>> can get a panel and all sorts of other goodies from there.  Getting
>> icons on desktop is easy, install gnome-tweak-tool.
>
>
> All of that TAKES PERSONAL TIME on the part of EVERYONE ELSE.  Why can't
> these things be included as STANDARD FEATURES?  Why?  If enough people WANT
> them, it's only BETTER if these features were on a standard settings dialog
> box.  Maybe a single checkbox under system settings that says "classic
> look", or a theme, or similar.  That's all it would take.  End of
> frustration.  Simple, right?  No more hours of searching to figure out what
> you MIGHT need to fix these problems.  Or, BETTER STILL, an FAQ
> DOCUMENTATION PAGE with a link that has the same stuff my page has, plus all
> of YOUR experiences with the extensions and so on, as "hey this is how you
> do it'.  That would make MORE sense, don't you think? Documentation, after
> all, is a GOOD thing.  I haven't found any that tells me everything I need,
> without going to zillions of dead-end google search results to find "that
> one", and only a piece of what I need at that.
>
>
>



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Diego Fernandez - 爱国