Sorry for top posting, but that's the way the conversation is
going..
I wanted to say that I don't know where the menus are going to fit
in the Panel if you have extensions: http://www.uploadup.com/di-ET8S.png
I know there is room on the left, but that may change if I find
another extension I like for example, also in small screens
(netbook) that room would no longer exist.
I do find the idea of using the application's title bar interesting
though, I'd just prefer it staying even when in fullscreen (with the
menus in it like one mockup shows). If the menus are move to the
titlebar then we already save space. The panel is something that is
aways shown (unless you hide it with an extension or if they later
add that option natively), so putting things that you always
see/often need (extensions) is more useful than menus...
Gabriel
On 11/19/2011 10:29 AM, Donato Marrazzo wrote:
Hello Gavin, thank you for reporting Florian comments.
I'm happy they are considering removing the title bar...
About the top bar, I think that it's too poor of capabilities,
it's a wasted space...
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Gavin
Engel <gavin engel com>
wrote:
Donato,
There was a recent discussion about titlebars, and
Florian Mullner gave some amazing comments on the topic. I
will quote him, because it sounds like it may be something
you are asking about. At the bottom of this quote he gave
links to 2 great mockup pages. (Hopefully he doesn't
mind me doing this...)
Fri,
Oct 7, 2011 at 1:14 AM
Hey,
On vie, 2011-10-07 at 09:43 +0200, Aurélien Naldi wrote:
> some personal thoughts:
> * The title bar IS too large by default, reducing its
size using
> gnome-tweak-tool helps
Note that the default size has been decreased in 3.2
> * I LOVE the fact that unity hides the title bar for
maximized windows
> and I think gnome-shell should
do something similar.
It is something that designers are considering.
There are still a lot of
open questions, but I think it's fairly safe
to say that we won't
"merge" the titlebar with
the top bar as Unity does (e.g. window
controls won't appear in the top bar), but
rather hide it completely.
> * As the main focus was about the menu bar, I have to
say that I like
> the unity behaviour for maximized windows, but I hate
it for other
> wondows, having to make sure the right one is
focussed and move to the
> top is cumbersome.
I don't think we want to do that, except for
"global" application
options which should appear in the
application menu (the one with the
lonely "quit" action). In fact, there's the
feeling that many
applications could do without a menu bar to
begin with (obviously not
LibreOffice/Gimp, but pretty much anything
"less complex")[0][1]
> As a result here is what I would love in gnome-shell:
> [...]
> * merge the menu bar into the title bar: we
get pretty much the same
> behaviour as unity for maximized windows, but
something much more sane
> for other windows.
This has the potential of reducing the draggable titlebar area
to zero,
so I don't think it is a very compelling
option :-)
However, if an application's menu "bar" is
reduced to a single toolbar
button (similar to the menu buttons found in
Firefox/Chromium), it might
indeed make sense to move it into the titlebar (ignoring
for a moment
that it would be far from trivial to
implement it).
Florian
[0] https://live.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/Menus
[1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:46
PM, Malcolm <malcolm_lewis bellsouth net>
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:39:09 +0100
Donato Marrazzo
< donato marrazzo gmail com>
wrote:
> Unfortunately, in the last years notebook
adopted 16/9 ratio for their
> displays: it seems that the primary job for a
laptop is watching
> movie!!! What a shame!
Have you tried the F11 key, that's what I use on my
netbook?
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