Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 107

[Martin Häsler <martin haesler googlemail com>]

On 05/24/2011 04:50 PM, gnome-shell-list-request gnome org wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 08:03:11 -0500
> From: Ryan Peters<sloshy45 sbcglobal net>
> To: "Allan E. Registos\(x-mail\)"<allan_registos lavabit com>,
> 	gnome-shell-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: The good, the bad, the insane
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> On 05/23/2011 06:47 PM, Allan E. Registos(x-mail) wrote:
> > On Monday, 23 May, 2011 10:13 PM, Ryan Peters wrote:
> > Pressing the alt-button shows the Power Off button, logging out so
> > that you can shutdown requires more work and delay especially after
> > work where a quick shutdown is badly needed. That design decision
> > again was discussed in length and that is invalid, it works obviously
> > to the designer's laptops while the rest of the desktop world are
> > suffering.
> When was this made "invalid"; are there plans to reverse the decision? I
> haven't read of this. Or, by "invalid", do you mean "we would like it
> the other way"? I'm not saying you're wrong, I only want to clarify, as
> I haven't read anything about the decision being reversed. Also, I use a
> desktop, and I can't see how holding the Alt key for a second or logging
> out is really such a big deal. It's unnecessary, sure, but it isn't
> exactly "the end of the world" as I hear so many people saying. It
> reminds me of the decision to not use minimize/maximize buttons by
> default; you can still maximize other ways, and it makes the desktop
> feel more consistent and minimal by default.
>
> How much harder is it to press the Alt key and click? I don't mean to
> sound rude, and I'm sorry if I come across as that, but it really is an
> incredibly small regression if you think about it, relative to some
> other problems like over-crowded settings dialogs not being visible on
> small screens. Even yelp, the GNOME 3 help program, tells users how to
> shut down (with the Alt key as well as the preferred method), so the new
> behavior is just as discoverable as any other keyboard shortcut.
Of course it's not hard to press the Alt key, it just doesn't make any 
sense.
And you really expect a user to open yelp in order to find out, how to
power off his system ?
Why is there a need to only have one option in the user menu ? a menu you
open maybe once or twice a day ?
If you only want one option, default should be Power Off, because you can
suspend your laptop by closing the lid or with a function Key or 
Hardware button.

Martin