Re: Gnome Shell

[Marshall Neill <ramien43 windstream net>]

Hi all,
To go over a  response to my e-mail

The easiest way to get to a place is to type it in the search ("Home
Folder") and yes, we know it's suboptimal.


Well if I may reiterate, if coming from Windows how would a user know to 
type Home folder as that is a Linux naming convention I think.  My 
computer or Explore might be a choice instead.   As the 'older' Gnome 
shell displayed that option by default.  Kinda handy don't you think.  
In addition to the Network and others I mentioned.
BTW, I would think users might be using the Recent Documents section as 
well.  If they wrote a letter or whatever then they might want to change 
something.   How do you find Recent Documents in the new Gnome Shell.
All this is pointing to the fact that the older shell had all these 
features PLUS cool graphics, if you wanted them.


That sounds like a bug. What applications aren't showing?

Well when you clicked on the old Gnome Menu system you would have 
choices, as in Internet, Games, Preferences, System, etc.
Now you get all applications but NOT ALL.   Mouse, Keyboard, Keyboard 
shortcuts, Sound (as in Preferences), Screensaver.
Sure, Control Center gives that to you but it's not obvious to casual 
observer that that is the place to go.  You EXPECT that to be out in the 
open.
Seems more and more clicking is involved now.

If you have other things that are bothering you, please tell us!

1.  Where did the Minimized application go?  Looking at the screen it 
appears nowhere.   All that real estate on the 'Panel', why not put it 
there.  I know they are trying to differentiate, but that feature, I 
feel, would be greatly appreciated.    Less Mouse moving.

2. No auto-complete in the Run dialog window.

3. Focus stealing prevention is enough to drive you mad.  I mean, I am 
in Thunderbird and Firefox is up and running.   Click a link in an 
e-mail and a little panel pops up indicating that Firefox has been 'sort 
of activated' but not brought to the front.  More mouse moving and clicking.
I would think that in the OS that the parent is Thunderbird and I have 
clicked a Link, so bring Firefox to the front.
This even occurs sporadicly in Firefox and you want to send a Link.  The 
e-mail is behind Firefox and yes, more mouse moving.

4. I noticed that when I brought up the 'new' Gnome Shell that the 
window border had changed.  I saw no way to get it back.  I was using 
Equinox and the new one, I have no idea what that one is.

5. In general it just seems like that there is a lot more mouse moving 
and clicking than prior.

Regards,
Marshall Neill


On 01/30/2011 10:11 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Marshall Neill
> <ramien43 windstream net>  wrote:
> > Gentlemen and ladies,
> > I just did a jhbuild and I have to tell you, it smacks of Unity.   Fav's on
> > the left side, click on Applications and it dumps them on the screen similar
> > to Unity.
> > You cannot one-click to any Place, e.g. Home folder, Network, Desktop,
> > Connect to, any of you locations.
> The easiest way to get to a place is to type it in the search ("Home
> Folder") and yes, we know it's suboptimal.
>
> What is supposed to happen in the interim before the Finding and
> Reminding UIs get implemented is pin "File Manager" to the dash by
> default, but this depends on a newer version of nautilus, which isn't
> in the gnome-shell jhbuild moduleset, so it unfortunately doesn't
> happen on most current distributions.
>
> > In fact I found no way to do it within a trivial amount of time.
> > I thought that gnome-shell would be an improvement, you know, cool graphics,
> > slide-out options, etc.
> > In fact in either the old Gnome shell or the newer one, not all your
> > applications show.
> That sounds like a bug. What applications aren't showing?
>
> > Sure, you can go to the Control Center, but even there, not all are
> > available.
> Not all what are available? gnome 3 and the new control center are
> still under heavy
> development.
>
> > I thought you guys were on the right track with the previous Gnome shell,
> > but then you deviated.
> >  From a regular user view, at least in my opinion and I am more of a tweaker,
> > this new interface is lacking.
> If you have other things that are bothering you, please tell us!
>
> > I know you can do better, you proved it with the interim Gnome shell, so
> > come on, do better.
> > Regards,
> > Marshall Neill
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