Re: Somes personal opinions, ideas and questions

[Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me>]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Gendre Sebastien <korbe romandie com> wrote:

Hello everybody and happy new year.

Recently I have seen and tested the new Gnome Shell.

Woaw, it's very better than the old. O_o Really good job. It fixes many
problems from the old. I also rediscover somes good features. I
specially like the idea to separate system notifications (on the top
right) and applications notifications (on the buttom).

That is great to hear!
 

A little question: Is it planned to can move the time indocator from the
middle to the right on settings? Because now, a little and single black
bar on the top with system notification on right and time on the middle
reminder the iPad Shell. :(

I'm not sure.. I believe that is the final location of the time indicator but that can change if data doesn't support it.  In any case, I suggest you file a bug in bugzilla as a feature request.
 

The new gnome-ghell is amazing but, however, the old Gnome-Shell was
better to manage workspaces. The new it's better if you have only-one
workspace or if you stay on one workspace, but if you want to manage
some workspaces, move window from one workspace to another or have an
overall view of all your winodows and workspace the old Gnome-Shell was
better.

This is already changing.  It hasn't been merged yet.  You can go here:

http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/

to read up about it.

 

For this, I have a little idea: In the "windows" section, in the new
Gnome-Shell[1], we can have 2 zoom levels. On the level 0 we see all
windows opened on the current workspace like now and on the level 1 we
see all warkspaces and all windows opened on each workspeace like on the
old Gnome-Shell. If you are on level 0 and have many workspaces, you can
switch to workspace what you want, like now, but can't create or delete
workspace. For this, you must to go to the level 1 and now you can
create or delete workspace and decide if you organise they like a line
or like a square. What do you think?

Seems a lot of work to create and delete workspaces don't you think?  Design for a Gnome shell generally involves reducing the number of clicks in doing a task.  Moving from 2 clicks (or actions) to three involves a lot more mental work.

I realy think Gnome Shell must have a solution to switch quickly between
windows with mouse or finger like a simply list of windows.

Please look at Jimmac's blog, I think you'll be pleased with what he has come up with.
 

We can't make a mix with the notifiactions system (the notifications
system on the bottom, not on the top)? Add a simple lsit of windows on
the bottom?

Alan Day has written up a page on some of the design principles behind gnome-shell, I think it will answer some of your questions.  I know the notifications area located bottom is described there:

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design

 

After 5 minutes of the test, I don't see a "Shortcuts" section like in
old Gnome-Shell or in Gnome-Panels. It was killed or it's planned to add
this on a section (like for windows and applications)?

I can't honestly answer that one.  Someone else will have to chime in on that.  I don't use it much under shell.  Please add yourself to this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636891

The proper term is "places", not "shortcuts".  Shortcuts is not specific since we don't know if you mean keyboard shortcuts or something else.
 

To finish this mail, I dont understand the logic to put system settings
and system shutdow behind the user name (on the right of the top panel).
I think this user name must manage only what is relevant to the user,
like the "presence" (available, away, etc), change user, deconnect user,
etc and system (settings, shutdown and info) need his own button. (icon
and/or text (The Gnome logo?)).

It does indeed do that.  Everything relevant to the "user experience" is under your name including changing settings.  I don't see why presence couldn't be added there.  Perhaps you could put in a bugzilla enhancement request?
 

What do you think?

This is just some personal thinking and not an attack to the project, so
don't ignor it.

If you're met with dead silence it is usually means that the question has been answered before and been re-hashed.  Please look here as a start:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell

There is a FAQ and other information there that I think will help you.  Also look through the mailing list archives whichi can be found at:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/

sri