Re: Gnome 3 desktop issues

[Tim Murphy <tnmurphy gmail com>]

On 9 December 2011 18:29, David Collins <davidcollins4481 gmail com> wrote:
> I don't think:
>>Essentially if you don't like it then it's apparently your fault.
> is a fair thing to say. It's different and it's new. You CAN move to
> something else if you don't like it.

This, to put it very politely, is manure.

It has been a huge struggle to find an alternative that's sustainable
- in other words something that works and that's getting updates.  I
am insulted that anyone should suggest that it was a mere nothing but
that's par for the smug course here.

> But change cannot be held up because
> some people are unwilling to alter their workflow. I don't speak for GNOME
> in any official way. Just a commenter. And I'm not trying to be
> disrespectful. GNOME 3 is still maturing and I love it.

If I make a change you don't like and make it extremely difficult for
you to escape it and I call it "progress" you'll be upset.   I could
do any old crap and describe it as being new.

Regards,

Tim

> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Tim Murphy <tnmurphy gmail com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Quite a few people have mentioned the same thing on this mailing list,
>> including myself.  You'll get told:
>> 1) to keep trying till you change your mind
>> 2) that if you don't change your mind it's because you're old
>> 3) that other people's grandmothers, who know no better anyhow, are
>> able to use it
>> 4) if you don't like something you can always make a hotkey to do it
>>
>> Essentially if you don't like it then it's apparently your fault.
>>
>> I have stopped trying to use reason because this is about people on
>> some mission and they aren't listening.
>>
>> What you can do is to support the people who are listening.
>>
>> http://www.linuxmint.com
>>
>> This is a respin of Ubuntu with the MATE DE which is basically GNOME2
>> forked.  It also has a modified GNOME3 which is almost usable.
>>
>> I have just switched and I'm happy with it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 9 December 2011 17:58, Wendell Nichols <wcn00 shaw ca> wrote:
>> > I've been using Linux in one form or another for almost 20 years to
>> > write
>> > software.  My desktop is busy and I keep connections to about 10 other
>> > desktops open for testing and development on other acrhitectures and
>> > languages.  I like linux because it is flexable... or was.  I keep all
>> > these
>> > desktops configured roughly the same so I don't have huge mental shifts
>> > to
>> > make when going from machine to machine.  That is:  one panel, on the
>> > bottom
>> > containing the menu, workspaces, notification area etc.  The rest of the
>> > screen is dedicated to doing MY work.  IMHO desktops should be invisible
>> > until you need them not crowding out your apps and laying multiple title
>> > bars on things.
>> > My laptop is Ubuntu 10, but I need to upgrade.  I've tested several new
>> > distributions:
>> > -ubuntu 11 unity; absolute disaster  seems designed for cell phones or
>> > somehing
>> > -ubuntu 11, fedora or opensuse with gnome 3.  basic functionality is
>> > there
>> > but there is no way to consolidate the top and bottom panel into one at
>> > the
>> > bottom.  That is an absolute requirement.
>> >
>> > Currently if nothing changes I will migrate to a KDE desktop, but I find
>> > it
>> > slow and some of my favourite apps are not available or don't work well
>> > in
>> > KDE.  The really sick thing is that I find myself using windoze 7 more
>> > and
>> > more these days and not hating it like I would if linux desktops were up
>> > to
>> > the job.
>> >
>> > sigh.
>> > Sorry to make my first post so negative but I feel that the most open
>> > and
>> > inclusive computing environment I've ever used has taken a rather sad
>> > turn
>> > for the worse.
>> >
>> > Wendell Nichols
>> > Software Architect
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>>
>>
>>
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