Re: Disliking gnome 3
- From: Ben Greear <greearb candelatech com>
- To: Evandro Giovanini <efgiovanini gmail com>
- Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Disliking gnome 3
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:16:14 -0700
On 08/30/2011 02:01 PM, Evandro Giovanini wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Ben Greear<greearb candelatech com> wrote:
I couldn't find a better place to voice my displeasure of Gnome 3,
so I'm posting here.
I really just want gnome-2 back. Fallback mode sort of works, but its
still not as good as gnome 2 was. I do work on my computer, not just
open one or two windows and browse the web. I want one-click to open
new Terminals. I want to drag the Terminal icon into the top task bar
to accomplish that. Right-click should work without having to press
Alt. I want the bottom task dock or whatever it's called so I can easily
from the multitude of windows I have on my desktop.
I believe using "Alt" was a fix for a major usability issue with GNOME
2, where users would easily move things and panels around by accident;
to fix that, eventually it was introduced that each panel and panel
object could be locked in place, which made actually customizing
things a pain in the ass and the codebase more complex. Using the Alt
modifier makes the panel code easier to maintain and actually editing
the panels more simple as well. And don't you just love the new
feature where items are auto aligned to the left, right or center? I
know I do. :)
For dragging stuff around a panel, that might make sense, but not for right-click menus,
and not for dragging stuff longer distances..you are unlikely to do that on
As for your actual gnome-shell comment: in GNOME 3.2 you can quickly
launch a new instance of an application by dragging it anywhere on the
overview (in 3.0 you had to find an empty space). Launching new
instances from the Dash instead of bringing focus to the application
is not something that should limit you to web browsing in one or two
windows at all; in fact, as far as I understand it's also the default
behaviour for Windows, Mac and Ubuntu's Unity. A lot of RealWork gets
done this way.
Can you just drag a Terminal icon into the top bar somewhere and then click it
to get new instances? (Or any other app, for that matter..but for me, I
mainly use terminals like that).
As a tip I'd recommend setting up a Super + T shortcut for launching
new terminal windows. It's way faster if you often use it.
That could work for me, but not obvious for new users. Clicking a big icon
on the desktop or small one in the top bar is much more obvious.
And of course that means putting icons back on the desktop by default.
And the minimize/maximize/close buttons on windows...bad idea to take those
away, especially when the window bars are already full of wasted whitespace..it's
not like it really saved anything to remove a few small buttons that folks
have been using for decades.
Anyway, I hope you try out GNOME 3.2 as it fixes many small problems
the original release had. I think you'll find that if you stick with
it and try to experience some of the unique features of the Shell
you'll quickly be a lot more productive with it.
Please have a one-click (or very few clicks) option to get the old
gnome-2 interface back. If you want to have a new way of doing things,
that's fine too, but please don't break the old ways of doing things
It's very easy to switch GNOME 3 back to fallback mode from "System
Info" in the System Settings.
It's easy once you find it, or read enough complaints on the web to find
someone talking about it, but I think it should be much more obvious, perhaps
as a option in gdm or something ("Classic Gnome", w/out compiz, which crashed
within 1 minute for me).
Ben Greear <greearb candelatech com>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
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