On 03/20/2010 08:53 AM, François Jaouen wrote:
IMHO there is 2 problems with minimize options :
1/ there is no way to restore windows in the current workspace without
going to the Activities overview (which, by the way, make me think to
vi command mode. Absolutely no offense here, but I am maybe too old for
newer metaphor ;) ) and I think that if minimize behavior is to be kept
there should be a mean to restore windows from the current workspace
(iconbox, etc.)
2/ as Mathew mentions, the fact that minimized windows have the same
visual importance in the Activities overview is disturbing
Let me say it another way. Switching from workspace to activities
overview is, at least in my mind, switching from a local area to a
global one with many more information, and I consider minimize action
as a local action, therefore it is disturbing to go to the global
picture to restore a window especially that, as Mathew said, minimized
windows don't have special appearance.
Moreover minimize actions are not first class actions in gnome-shell
(while spreading windows all over workspaces is). If I understand well
gnome-shell paradigm, minimize actions are last resort action : Well
for any reason I don't want to open another workspace but I have to
make room, let start to minimize some stuff.
That is why I proposed to remove minimize button from the title bar,
and probably keep it as shortcut and in the title bar menu but as local
workspace action.
I would like to be clear, I know how it is difficult to propose new
things, to disturb habits and I feel that gnome-shell will be a great
masterpiece (but it will have to find its way) and my intent here is
just to give feedback and maybe some little clues.
François
Le 18/03/2010 23:40, David Mulder a écrit :
Though I defintely agree that a minimize button might not
be necessary anymore, I got to disagree that the collapse option would
be better. Something which might be worth considering is removing the
button alltogether and only add a cmd/ctrl+h option (super+hide) which
hides the window from view and is only visible in the gnome-shell, but
that would depend on how many people actually still use the minimizing
option.
David Mulder
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:55 PM, François
Jaouen <francois jaouen laposte net>
wrote:
Hello,
(My previous post seems to have vanished away so here is my second try)
I've started to play with the very promising gnome-shell and, at first,
I was quite confused when I minimized a window and saw it disappeared
around the Activities label without any clue to restore it back !
Then I remembered that gnome-shell is all about using several
workspaces and I decided to leave my habit of working with only one
workspace (ten years of MS Windows practice is bound to take its toll)
and started to organize my windows into several workspaces. Half an
hour later, I was very comfortable with it.
Hence my (open) question : Is the Minimize button still useful with
gnome-shell ? Wouldn't it be more in sync with gnome-shell to have
instead a collapse behind the title bar behavior as in emerald (double
click on the title bar) ?
François
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I agree; there isn't much of a point to minimizing. Replacing it with
something that sends it to another workspace/icon-ifies it or something
would be a better idea.
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