Re: live wallpaper





2010/1/17 n@ <nathaniel42 gmail com>
Hi All,

IMHO I think the netbook launcher should replace the standard desktop icons Nautilus draws it's sweet and practical (and not just for netbooks); but one could add an option for mouse interactivity to many of the xscreensaver hacks, that'd be a fair cool way of implementing some like what the mod asked for... (of course like many other graphical distractions these can already be made to draw on the desktop / root window with a single command line option)

As for playing video on the desktop - shouldn't that be a feature request for the totem devs? [MPlayer has a "-rootwin" option to draw video to the desktop]

If anyone wants to implement realise this as any kind of new project - my suggestion is to please consider making it as a Gnome project but not explicitly part of gnome-shell, the feature just doesn't need to be implemented in the project and can be implemented better (I think) seperately.

Nat

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:57 AM, <gnome-shell-list-request gnome org> wrote:

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:56:54 +0000
From: Sam Illingworth <hushnecampus gmail com>
To: Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan ubuntu com>
Cc: "gnome-shell-list gnome org" <gnome-shell-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: live wallpaper
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On 16 Jan 2010, at 04:39 PM, Shane Fagan
<shanepatrickfagan ubuntu com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:32 +0900, matsuo wrote:
>> (2010?01?17? 01:09), Shane Fagan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:07 +0900, matsuo wrote:
>>>
>>>> (2010?01?17? 00:04), Shane Fagan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 23:51 +0900, matsuo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi i am new to gnome-shell mailing list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i recently saw a video about the new android OS and it has a cool
>>>>>> feature that ins't available in any desktop environment as far
>>>>>> as i know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is called live wallpaper and it is really simple. the
>>>>>> wallpaper of
>>>>>> your desktop become interactive(if you click on a button in the
>>>>>> desktop,
>>>>>> the wallpaper shows some form of effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here is a video showing live wallpaper
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1YBcYw_qE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what do you think about implementing this in gnome shell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i would like to hear your feedback
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well you can use gifs or svgs with animation so it can be done
>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Shane Fagan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I know that it is possible, i wanted to hear about actually making
>>>> this a
>>>>
>>>> default or something which can be done with a few click.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It can be done with a single click at the moment. You just have to
>>> have
>>> an animated image and it is part of the default.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>> of course if you are a programmer and have experience, it will be
>> easy,
>> but if you are a newbie which i think a lot of ubuntu user are now,
>> it
>> isn't that easy i think.
>
> It shouldnt take too much programming, just detect the click event
> get x
> and y then do what you want with that info to the svg. I dont really
> see
> the point in actually doing it but it wouldnt be too hard for anyone
> (with a little googling).
>
>
> Shane

I think that's what he's suggesting the developers should do. He's
asking for a feature - it's not a feature if you have to code it
yourself.

Personally, I'd be happy with a nice user driedly GUI front end for
setting up xwinwrap to play certain videos or apps as my background,
while also displaying icons, but I think Matsuo's idea is nice too. At
the moment Gnome has, unless you're willing and able to devote a lot
of technical expertise to changing it yourself, far less visual flare
than other OS frotends, it'd be great to change that, not just to play
catch up but to offer more and cooler effects than other OSes, without
needing to be a technical wiz to enable it.

Sam

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Hi All, i hope i did everthing right considered this is my first Mailing List Answer EVER, but i just wanted to lose some words about the Live Wallpapers.

Im not gonna delve into the discussion about Nautilus drawing the Icons since its quite a Topic for itself.

I think implementing Live Wallpapers at this point of gnome-shell development is just too much to ask for honestly, it might look nice at first sight but we really should focus on more important stuff right now like f.e. getting an Extension System rolled out, have some Customization Options integrated into the Shell for switching the Black Look to something more personalized (some people love a pink or blue background, simple as that), make the new Notifier System really usable (in a PRODUCTIVE way), have good Zeitgeist Integration thats really giving User advantages while browsing Recent Files, have more Keyboard Actions for the Shell so people wont have to click on pretty much everything and so on and so on, i could point out a list of maybe 50 features and the Live Wallpapers would be way below that list. 

Im not saying it totally sucks, maybe some people will actually like it, but we should focus on giving everybody a good Working Experience for the Everday Tasks before we start thinking about Features that exist mainly for Eyecandy. 



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