Re: some thoughts on gnome shell



Hi!

> ok, notifications are now "less intrusive" but the problem remains:
> the third image
> (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray/Chat)
> messages are too big and if I'm working on a another program.

This is only when you use the inline chat feature which means you
already focused on the chat. Normally only a much smaller message will
appear (see image one on mentioned page).

>  Notify
> OSD gives less problems because this does not invade the main area of
> the screen. TODAY the solution proposed by Canonical application
> indicators and system indicators seem easier to use. If I'm not in
> front of the computer and I get a notification (from telepathy) in
> gnome-shell that is visible only if I'm going to search them right?
> Canonical addition to notify-osd use other instruments (me-or
> sound-applet2 menu for example) to provide a proper control system.

The noticiations disappear after some time as Ubuntu. You can look for
previous notifications if you move the mouse to the bottom of the
screen.

> Zeitgeist:The problem is not the UI but the code that deals with the research.
> If I type in gnome-do "you" the first result is because the terminal
> use this program daily. Gnome-shell offers me the client terminal
> server, a program that I never use! Zeitgeist fix this limit

That has nothing to do with zeitgeist and the search feature is being
worked on so that it includes applications, documents, web sites, etc.

> Application menu: The choice to use the favorites is IMHO a wrong choice.
> The risk is that a "non-Power User" hard to find the necessary order
> to work. the learning curve is too high today in gnome-shell. I agree
> with those who say that "If somebody needs an extension or a gizmo to
> easily do a function, we've failed." Gnome3 MUST be usable by all
> without extensions, modifications, customizations. Today it is not
> even in the mockup and the situation does not seem much improved.

Trust me, lots of people use gnome-shell daily but there are areas that
can be improved. I think the GUADEC mockup are not yet uploaded anywhere
but I guess that will happen soon. The overlay is slightly redesigned
there.

> Application switcher:I do not want to make judgments before you try
> the solution you are developing but the usual "not power users"
> expects to have on screen a list of open programs .... It 'so you
> always and I do not think that is willing to change medoto work for
> "your fault": P

The gnome-shell developers think that the applications switcher wastes
screen space and I think they are right. Ever seen a phone with an
application switcher?

> IMHO you should organize an event to sit and listen. People like Seif
> Lotfy, David Siegel, Andrea Cimitan, the people of elementary project
> can perhaps give some interesting gnome-shell to make something unique
> and great!

Eh, yeah, that's why all of those attended GUADEC together with most of
the gnome-shell developers. There is lots of discussion, still sometimes
it's hard to understand some decisions Canonical did (behind closed
doors).

Johannes

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