Re: [Fwd: Re: here i come !]



On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 23:43, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who="Mikael Hallendal">
> 
> > Is it that bad?
> 
> Yes, it syncs your hard drive regularly (every 5 seconds from memory?)
> 
> > Is it equally bad with ReiserFS, XFS or JFS?
> 
> Pretty much, although none of those do full data journalling, or even
> ordered writes like ext3.

It's actually not that bad with XFS on my laptop, and ext3 can be
patched to writeout less often than that. Andrew Morton could definetely
give us a hand here.

> > This discussion is _very_ low level at this stage thouhg :)
> 
> Yeah... But it's great that we're attempting to establish an understanding
> and culture around our resposibility to make decisions *for* our users. Most
> FS/OSS people shirk that responsibility, and leave it up to their users.

There's actually more than 2 options.

1) ext2
2) ext3 + noatime option
3) ext3

On my laptop, I would choose 2). Most non-developers on laptops should 
choose 1), everybody else would choose 3).

On PPC, you can detect if you're on a laptop or not:
grep PowerBook /proc/cpuinfo > /dev/null && echo laptop

We wouldn't even ask the question, default to ext2 on laptops, ext3 on
desktops, and have a capplet to change that. On PCs, I wouldn't know how
to do it. Oh, as well, most desktop PCs and desktop Macs can sleep. I'm
all for adding stuff to the actions menu.

Sleep
Location chooser (there are some scripts, packaged with debian that
integrate well, I have urls somewhere in my mail archive)
...
Any other ideas ?

-- 
/Bastien Nocera
http://hadess.net

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