Re: [gnome-nl] Status of the Ubuntu Docs in Natty+Oneiric

[Hannie <lafeber-dumoleyn2 zonnet nl>]

Op 09-07-11 12:16, Matthew East schreef:

For now it is worth translating gnome-user-docs (natty) because updates will be shipped to this
package.

I am still not convinced this is the case. I have translated 1000 (!) 
strings of the gnome-user-docs in Launchpad, and I get updates 
regularly, bu so far I do not see one word in Dutch when I press F1. For 
the translation of a document as large as this one it is absolutely 
essential that it is worth the effort. It would be very sad if all this 
work appears to be useless.
Hannie
> Hi,
>
> On 9 July 2011 10:01, Hannie<lafeber-dumoleyn2 zonnet nl>  wrote:
> > We, Ubuntu Dutch Translators, are currently translating gnome-user-docs, the
> > Ubuntu Desktop Guide you get when you press F1 in Ubuntu Natty (with Unity),
> > https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-user-docs/+pots/gnome-user-docs-gnome-help/nl/.
> > But following the discussion on this subject, see discussions below, I am
> > not sure what I'll get when I press F1 in Oneiric. If gnome-user-docs is no
> > longer going to be used in Oneiric (Unity), there is no point in continuing
> > translating the Natty version, since we are not far from the Oneiric
> > release. On the other hand, if it will be used in Oneiric, finishing the
> > Natty version is important because it is likely that most of the strings
> > will also appear in the Oneiric version.
> The latter position is correct. The strings currently used in
> gnome-user-docs (natty) will be present in the ubuntu-docs package
> (oneiric), although updates will be made to reflect changes to the
> software as between natty and oneiric. For now it is worth translating
> gnome-user-docs (natty) because updates will be shipped to this
> package. Do not translate any oneiric documentation, it is too early
> in the release and these strings may change.
>
> The gnome-user-docs (oneiric) package will contain the upstream
> documentation and will be used for gnome-shell (not installed by
> default).
>
> > Another issue is the upstream translation. I can upload the Launchpad
> > translation, once it is finished on Launchpad, to Gnome-nl. But I want to
> > know if, in the LP document, there are strings added for the Ubuntu users
> > only.
> About half the strings in gnome-user-docs (natty) come from
> gnome-user-docs upstream, so it is worth uploading the translations.
>
> > And as for ubuntu-docs,
> > https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/natty/+lang/nl, is this what
> > is called the new topic-based help help ("Desktop Help"), and will this be
> > used in Oneiric?
> No, this will be dropped in Oneiric. This is documentation for the
> ubuntu-classic desktop, which is present in Natty, but not in Oneiric.