Re: [gnome-love] Hi, which way ?

[Artiom <artiom phreaker net>]

Hi,

Aschwin van der Woude wrote:
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> Testing is done by the users themselves. Some of those users are
> developers, and might even help solving problems with the software.
> If you are interested in this model, you could start reading the books
> by Eric Raymond like 'Cathedral and the bazaar'.
	I've read C&B, Homesteading the Noosphere and such. "Given enough 
eyeball all bugs are shallow" means that OSS is good as opposed to 
closed sources, but not that you should pass all bugs to the users =) 
It's known saying that bugs found by developer is of $1, by QA - $10 and 
by user - $100. While in OSS this mostly means 1hr, 10hr and 100hr [to 
gain good quality] respectively, there's more important argument, namely 
cost [read - time] of applying changes and fixes. You can read more in 
any TDD book, and TDD by example draft is available on the 'Net, afair.

	The reason why i dared to flame here (my pardons, again =) is that 
there're often cases when some part of gnome becomes broken and you 
can't easily say why. Debugging unknown project with 4M sources is 
quite... annoying, then, i can break something with fix and another 
person will sit over there with debugger, so on. Automated unit testing, 
like "make test" in good perlish modules should really save a day or two.

> If you are interested in doing some testing, you are more than welcome
> to do so. Testing with tools like Valgrind will probably find some more
> problems in the various parts of Gnome.
	Huh =( I'm currently adding valgrind plugin to anjuta2 and... still 
afraid of breaking something. There's enormous amout of functional tests 
to be done by hands =(

Anyway, sorry for spamming.

Artiom