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Re: gnome 3 window switcher

Gee, thanks for the rant. Mind you, I guess I didn't have to read it =)

Regarding the window switcher issue, I don't see where the problem is. I use Gnome 14.04.04 (Gnome Shell 
3.10.4) and WITHOUT any fancy extensions, I can plainly see the highlighted program when I use Alt+Tab.
I've included a link to a screenshot to demonstrate : 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzPNfdf2kD6VSk1SQlQ2TjJmcGM
If you have a different set-up, then may I suggest (as Summers Pittman did) that you visit 
https://extensions.gnome.org & try either Alternative Tab or Alt-Alt+Tab ... searching for Alt+Tab shows 19 
result, admittedly not ALL what you're looking for, but hey.

As for the bright-yellow title-bar, why not simply try a whole other theme? There are lots out there to 
choose from ... BTW : do you have gnome-tweak-tool (<-- package name) installed? That allows you to easily 
apply a theme, as well as tweak a few other things in Gnome.
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Today's Topics:

   1. problems with gnome 3 window switcher (Britton Kerin)
   2. is there a higher-traffic forum? (Britton Kerin)
   3. Re: problems with gnome 3 window switcher (Summers Pittman ?)
   4. still not able to change window title bar color [rant]
      (Britton Kerin)


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Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:53:24 -0800
From: Britton Kerin <britton kerin gmail com>
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Subject: problems with gnome 3 window switcher
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First of all I actually quite like gnome 3 after all the horror
stories I'm pleasantly surprised it's mostly awesome.  Gnome classic
seems to work pretty good.

There are a couple things I hate though.  One is the way the window
switcher (Alt-tab) and window focus indication works.

In gnome 2 I used to get a thick black line around the potential
window to be selected while alt-tabbing through them.  I had theme
such that focused window title was bright yellow, others gray.

Now while tabbing the only feedback is on the selector showing the
icons..  So when I have 4-6 terms open and I try to tab to a different
one, I have NO IDEA which one I have selected, which is super
annoying.  The problem is made worse by the fact that the focused
window title bar/border is only a tiny bit lighter shade of gray than
all the other windows.  I've tried dconf-editor but haven't
found any options that change the colors.

What I would like:

* box around window to be focused while alt-tabbing, like in gnome 2
* focused window get yellow or at least non-gray title bar

Ideas greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Britton


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Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:54:27 -0800
From: Britton Kerin <britton kerin gmail com>
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it seems the traffic on this list is pretty low for all of gnome.

Is there somewhere else better to post?

Thanks,
Britton


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Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 16:06:47 -0400
From: Summers Pittman ? <secondsun gmail com>
To: Britton Kerin <britton kerin gmail com>
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Subject: Re: problems with gnome 3 window switcher
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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Britton Kerin <britton kerin gmail com> wrote:

First of all I actually quite like gnome 3 after all the horror
stories I'm pleasantly surprised it's mostly awesome.  Gnome classic
seems to work pretty good.

There are a couple things I hate though.  One is the way the window
switcher (Alt-tab) and window focus indication works.

In gnome 2 I used to get a thick black line around the potential
window to be selected while alt-tabbing through them.  I had theme
such that focused window title was bright yellow, others gray.

Now while tabbing the only feedback is on the selector showing the
icons..  So when I have 4-6 terms open and I try to tab to a different
one, I have NO IDEA which one I have selected, which is super
annoying.  The problem is made worse by the fact that the focused
window title bar/border is only a tiny bit lighter shade of gray than
all the other windows.  I've tried dconf-editor but haven't
found any options that change the colors.

What I would like:

* box around window to be focused while alt-tabbing, like in gnome 2
* focused window get yellow or at least non-gray title bar

Ideas greatly appreciated.


Check extensions.gnome.org for a bunch of things that knock off some
of the more rude ideas from Unity and OS X.  To get the good window
switcher I use this :
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/



Thanks,
Britton
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Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 13:53:31 -0800
From: Britton Kerin <britton kerin gmail com>
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Subject: still not able to change window title bar color [rant]
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so I thought I was close finding these:

http://worldofgnome.org/how-to-hack-gnomes-adwaita-gtk-theme/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479239

and I can do things like make everything red as described in the example.
But nothing that I could find lets me set just the color of the
focused window titlebar.

Some observations about my experience trying to do this:

 * Why does gnome use ~/.local and ~/.config?  They think they the
center of my fcking universe that
they take these generic names?

* How do I know if I want ~/.local or ~/.config?  Lots of functional
overlap to look at the files

* So I make my own myAdwaita theme as described.  Now do I want to
change things in metacity-1
or gtk-3.0?  They seem to overlap.  But metacity-1 doesn't seem to
have any effect, so I guess it's not that

* in metacity-1 dir, why do we have both metacity-theme-2.xml and
metacity-theme-3.xml?  Which
do I want?  They don't describe themselves.  No other files in
~/.local or ~/.config refers to either of
them.

* gnome-shell --replace causes most of my desktop to crash after a few
times, without having made any changes other than going to red and
back as described in the example.  Hard reboot required.  Guess I'll
be logout/login between every change then

Folks, this is BS.  Wanting to be able to tell which window is focused
without searching for a cursor (which is what I currently end up
doing) is not too much to ask.  Either stop prioritizing prettyness
over usability or give users some sane way to change settings.  If
you're going to stick things in ~/.dotfiles make them sane and
self-describing.

I'm starting to get the same feeling from gnome that I do from
systemd.  You post to a list about with an obvious deficiency or
advice and get... nothing.  I mean I might be in favor of systemd if
the devels appeared to care even slightly about input but they just
ignore it


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