Re: how to focus on desktop automatically if no windows open?
- From: Bill Haneman <Bill Haneman Sun COM>
- To: Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>
- Cc: Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org>, Gnome List <gnome-list gnome org>, metacity-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: how to focus on desktop automatically if no windows open?
- Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:51:04 +0000
Hi Havoc:
Well of course we need to retain the ability to use keyboard shortcuts
when "nothing is focussed". My point is that the "nothing is focussed"
case is probably inherently wrong anyway, and must itself be avoided.
In practice this means programmatically transferring focus to "something
visible" when the "no focus" case takes place; this discussion is about
whether that "something" should be the Desktop or not.
Bill
Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:02 +0000, Bill Haneman wrote:
I think that the presence of an invisible no-focus window may be an
accessibility violation (i.e. may violate '508' paragraph 1194.21c).
That window was a bugfix for "the keyboard becomes disabled and stops
working entirely" (arguably an X11 protocol bug that this "no keyboard
for you!" state exists, but it does; when X11 has the focus window set
to None, not even the global keybindings work - i.e. without a mouse you
can't do _anything_ to fix it, since you can't alt+tab or anything).
So, I don't think you want us to get rid of it, unless we're going to
put paragraph 1194.21c ahead of workingness.
My memory was that we only use the invisible window when no user-visible
window was available to become focused, but Elijah has a notoriously
better memory and is saying otherwise.
Havoc
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