Re: Are these "troubles" due to RedHat 8 or Gnome 2 ?

[Geoffrey <esoteric 3times25 net>]

Sean Middleditch wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 10:54, Geoffrey wrote:
>
>
> > I'm an Enlightenment user and with gnome2, there's no longer 
> > compatibility, thus I'll be looking at dumping Gnome, rather then 
> > accepting the reduction in functionality.
>
>
> This is Enlightenment's fault for not following updated standards,
> iirc.  I suggest you point Enlightenment's developers over to
> freedesktop.org, or switch to a window manager intended to work with a
> desktop environment.  You can't expect gnome to hold back on adding new
> features that require newer _standard_ WM specs just because of l337
> users that "need" exotic WM's...  Even if for whatever reason Metacity
> or the newer Sawfish do not have enough weird and useless features for
> you, plenty of other WM's have already incorporated the newer standards
> and work fine.  And, as a final note, as Enlightenment is becoming it's
> own desktop shell, it will make itself incompatible with gnome/kde (this
> taken from the Enlightenment website).


Enlightenment folks are working 17, thus 16.5 won't see any further 
development.  Whether e17 does the freedesktop.org stuff or not, I don't 
know.  So maybe e17 will provide the functionality I lost with Gnome2, good.

My argument is not so much with the issues with E and gnome as it is 
with gnome not providing an interface to easily change wm, so be it, 
ones that support the freedesktop.org standards.

Slamming E for having 'weird and useless features' is a cop out anyway. 
 If you've got nothing to add to the issue, you can save your baseless 
opinions for yourself.  For me, it's not an issue of 'kewl' features.  I 
use Linux for my development work, so I'm not looking for something 
pretty, but something functional.  E and gnome 1.2, gave me that nice 
meld of functionality, Gnome2 with any other wm does not.

Forget about E, let's talk about Gnome.  What I see of Gnome 2 is less 
functionality, fewer applets.  So, is this growth?  I think not.  I 
think Gnome 2 came out before it was ready, cause KDE is so kickass. 
Personally I don't like the look of kde, but it's got better 
functionality then Gnome.

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