Re: newbie question

[Telsa Gwynne <hobbit aloss ukuu org uk>]

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 or thereabouts, Simon M. C. Butler wrote:
>  i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on
>  RH7.0   i am using the TWM window manager
> 
> 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom
> of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window
> up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere?
> 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit
> the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine.

I am wondering what's getting read when you startx. Have you got a
~/.Xclients or ~/.xinitrc there? What's in it? (them?) If they're 
present, what permissions do they have? 

I encountered similar symptoms to your second problem when using
Window Maker with Gnome at first. Wmaker wanted to do the session
management. When I quit Gnome, I'd get a blank screen and didn't
return to the console. Telling wmaker not to session-manage fixed
that. 

Can you do control-alt-F1 (F2, whatever) to get back to the console
you started X from? 

As to starting a panel, that -should- start along with the other
things which routinely start in Gnome. I believe that's file manager,
help browser, control center and panel.

You can start those individually from a terminal with "gmc &", 
"gnome-help-browser &", "gnomecc &" and "panel &". (You don't need
the & signs; they're just to get your prompt back :)) 

Starting them from a terminal might give you some errors which make
things clearer. Or they may Just Work. If they are remembered when 
you quit and restart, problem one is dealt with. I hope.

Telsa