Re: RH Gnome Sucks ? (For you all to read)

[Jesse <Jessebrain ozemail com au>]

Hi.
I Have been following linux for years, as I am sure you all have.  and yes 
I belive the version
of gnome released with RH6.0 was not that great, but then again RH 6.0 was 
not that great
either, it was slow and clunky, but then there was 6.1 which was a _VAST_ 
improvement,
and now 6.2, and I am sure that very few people that work on gnome and 
RedHat that feel
that what Miguel was quoted correctly.

Everyone in the Gnome and RedHat team has made a great effort, and linux 
would not have
come this far without their efforts, and I am grateful for all the effort 
everyone else has put in
to give me and millions of others out there a tough, reliable and stable OS.

Keep up the good work, and don't let the press get you down, anyway, when 
was the last time
you read the truth??  they allways put a spin on it and never ever tell the 
whole story, just enough
for you to jump to a seemingly logical conclusion.

Jesse.


At 11:51 AM 20/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Paul Warren wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 12:41:02PM -0500, Thomas R. Shannon wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:46:41 +0100 you wrote:
> > >
> > >  > In today's LWN Miguel is quoted as having said that: If you are 
> thinking
> > >  > that GNOME sucks, however, it's probably "because you are using 
> Red Hat's
> > >  > version."
> > >  >
> > >  > I just can't believe the Gnome leader is bashing a company that 
> has always
> > >  > been so supportive of this project (not only for including Gnome 
> as their
> > >  > primary desktop but also by producing lots of code for the project).
> > >
> > > I'm guessing that he meant a version which was distributed
> > > with Red Hat (i.e. an old one).
> >
> > Yeah, that's what I took it to mean.  Quite a common thread of
> > conversation, on this list and others:
> >
> > "Hey Gnome sux"
> > "What version you using?"
> > "Whatever comes with RH 6"
> > "Ah.  Upgrade..."
> >
> > IIRC, RH released 6.0 (or was it 6.1) just before October Gnome, which
> > was by any measure a massive improvement on what was being shipped with
> > RH.
>
>So Miguel was quoted out of context then.  What he probably (or should
>have) said was: "If you think Gnome sucks, you were probably using the
>version we provided with RH 6.0.  Right after RH 6.0 was released, we
>made massive improvements to Gnome.  Looking back, maybe we should have
>waited until those improvements were finished before rolling Gnome out
>with the most popular Linux distribution."
>
>Not knowing any more about the article and the interviewer, I would
>guess off the top of my head that this is just another case of the media
>trying to whip up a controversy where there really is none.  Conflict
>sells, almost as much as sex.
>
>Or, if you're a conspiracy theorist, maybe the interviewer does a lot of
>side jobs for MSnbc.
>
>Dan
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