Re: Re: Re: compiling from tarballs

[Data Zone <datazone airmail net>]

Actualy, i sent an email to him already telling him how to build rpms 
from tarballs, and offering to make rpms for any packages he is having 
problems with.

I didn't intend any harm by calling you "dude"
its just the way i speak.


Leland Elie
MIS Guy



On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:34:56 michael wrote:
> 
> OK.
> I applologize even though i was refered to as DUDE.
> But I see no refrence in his email to a question about a gnumeric-0.46.rpm.
> Furthermore since he is as green as i am, he doesn't no the appropriate
> packages to download. So why not make sure your up to snuff with everything.
> At least least i tried to help and all you've done is wast bandwith such as 
i'm
> doing now trying to defend myself.
> Does any one else have feedback on this. I need a second opinion.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Data Zone wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:34:01 -0600
> > To: gnome-list@gnome.org
> > From: Data Zone <datazone@airmail.net>
> > Reply-To: Data Zone <datazone@airmail.net>
> > Subject: Re: Re: compiling from tarballs
> > 
> > Okay dude, i don't think you understood what he was asking.  he didn't 
> > ask for help on installing gnome. just wanted to know how to get rpms of 
> > the latest and greatest gnome stuff that only seem to be available in 
> > tarballs.  therefore you just confused the matter for no apparent 
> > reason.
> > 
> > Therefore, the next time you decide to help someone, make sure you are 
> > actually helping them, else you are just making matters worse.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Leland Elie
> > MIS Guy
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:42:24 michael wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1 Jan 2000, Dave Reed wrote:
> > > > Date: 1 Jan 2000 01:17:26 -0000
> > > > To: twilson@csufresno.edu
> > > > From: Dave Reed <dreed@capital.edu>
> > > > Subject: Re: compiling from tarballs
> > > > 
> > > > > Resent-Cc: 
> > > > > MBOX-Line: From gnome-list-request@gnome.org  Fri Dec 31 20:00:32 
1999
> > > > > From: Todd Wilson <twilson@csufresno.edu>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please pardon me if this is a stupid question, but I couldn't find 
an
> > > > > explanation in the FAQ or Getting Started pages.  I have a RH 6.1
> > > > > system and have been wanting to use some of the recent releases
> > > > > announced on this list -- e.g., gnumeric-0.46.  When I go to the RH
> > > > > Package Installation page at www.gnome.org, I find that the version
> > > > > there is gnumeric-0.38.  Vaguely remembering it being said that 
recent
> > > > > releases are only available in tarball, I go to the Installation 
from
> > > > > Tarball page, and, indeed, gnumeric-0.46 is there.  When I go to
> > > > > install it, I find that I need libglade-0.11.  Fair enough; I 
download
> > > > > and install that first.  When gnumeric's configure complains again
> > > > > that my libglade is still too old, I go back and find an instruction
> > > > > on the download page that implies that I have to remove the libglade
> > > > > package that came with my distribution first.  When I try to do 
this,
> > > > > of course, I get a message about many broken dependencies.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My question:  Does this mean that I'm basically going to have to
> > > > > remove most of my gnome packages, re-install them from tarball, do
> > > > > something to my /etc/ld.so.conf, and possibly other stuff just to 
try
> > > > > out one program (gnumeric-0.46)?  Or, possibly, that I'm either 
going
> > > > > to have to go all tarball or all RPM, not a mixture of both?  Is 
there
> > > > > a document that I haven't seen that explains this in some detail 
(/usr
> > > > > vs. /usr/local, gnome-config getting confused, etc.)?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I find the easiest thing to do is put the newer versions in /usr/local
> > > > and put /usr/local/bin first in the PATH variable and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> > > > variable so that the configure scripts find the newer version and
> > > > older version will still work (no need to remove the older versions).
> > > > I'm still running RH 5.2 with the newer versions of gtk/gnome in
> > > > /usr/local using this method.
> > > > 
> > > > > Related question:  I also vaguely remember it being said that the
> > > > > process of producing RPMs from tarballs is not very complicated, but
> > > > > that, because developers understandably didn't want to be in the RPM
> > > > > business, there was bound to be some lag time before they get 
produced
> > > > > (eight releases worth, in the case of gnumeric).  Is there any 
reason
> > > > > why scripts cannot be written that will create the necessary RPMs
> > > > > automatically from the tarballs and place the resulting files in the
> > > > > ftp area, so as to eliminate this lag time?  Or, more likely, am I
> > > > > completely misunderstanding the situation?
> > > > 
> > > > It's just a matter of someone creating the SPEC file for it - I'm not
> > > > a RPM expert so I just usually put all things from .tar.gz files in
> > > > /usr/local and don't worry if my RPM database isn't upto date for
> > > > things that I want newer versions than the distribution includes.
> > > > 
> > > > HTH,
> > > > Dave
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > 
> > > The best way to prepare your system for installing things from tarball
> > > is to use GnoRPM.
> > > Use the Web Find feature.
> > > Note: you can select Operation-prefrences-distribution tab.Here you can 
> > define
> > >         download sites corresponding to what type of files you want (ie:
> 6.0
> > > updates) to download.
> > > Ive found that the newst versions are the ones that will download 
> > succesfully.
> > > Next step : Go to the GNOME web site , find the fact page telling you 
about
> > > what order to install GNOME-packages.
> > > 
> > > Then go back to your web find and download what ever GNOME updates
> > > you need + there corresponding development packages.
> > > 
> > > This will also get you going if you want to dabble with cvs packages.
> > > However that subject is beyond the scope of this quickely document.
> > > Hope this help.
> > > 
> > > Also its the year 2000!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > 
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